Take the time to understand the java patterns regarding data
access, presentation etc... (Look up java patterns) Learning java
in 21 days doesn't get you to designing enterprise ready
applications. The worst thing that can happen is you jump in
without establishing good coding habits and write bad
unmaintainable code. � �TAKE YOUR TIME AN DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST
TIME!!! � Build yourself a live application with DB, app server
etc... Lord knows theres enough open source stuff to get you
started (Eclipse , MySQL, JBoss). Build a real application
outside of hello world should get you the real problems you will
encounter.

Good luck
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Well from my viewpoint, how long it takes you to get a good
footing in Java
or indeed getting a footing at any time -- depends on what
learning
materials you have.

Like for example, my first taste of java was rather sour because
I was using
texts that actually were not very good ones (Bishop -- "Java
Gently" and
Deitel and Deitel -- "Java: How To Program")

but then I did a course from a university using their own
produced learning
materials and a different text -- Lewis and Loftus -- "Java
Software
Solutions" -- and I became a lot more confident.

So I think that how well you grasp java depends on how good your
learning
materials are.




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