Hi Laca,

Laszlo (Laca) Peter wrote On 05/03/07 14:47,:

>On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 17:20 +0900, Takao Fujiwara wrote:
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>>Laszlo (Laca) Peter wrote:
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>>>On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 19:58 +0900, Takao Fujiwara wrote:
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>>>>Let's say the next deadline is 20:00 today @Dubline time.
>>>>The AIs are to:
>>>>  - replace http://.../foo.zip with 
>>>>http://.../foo%{?!_with_download:-YYYY-MM-DD}.zip to follow 
>>>>http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries
>>>>  - remove en_US.aff since GNOME applications cannot use it.
>>>>  - deliver all documents in _doc dir beside README* files.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Hmm... Keep in mind that the default behaviour should "just
>>>work".  I.e., people shouldn't need to use --with-download
>>>in order to get an url that works.
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>>>
>>I'ld like to hack pkgtool. When we give "download" argument, it defines
>>"_with_download".
>>
>>Do you have any ideas?
>>If I added '$defaults->define ('_with_download', '1');' or 'process_with
>>("with", "download");' in pkgtoo.pl, it does not define the parameter.
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>I agree with Damien that this is not a good idea.
>--download should download whatever the url is and not rewrite the
>url to something that can be downloaded.
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>>>If we change the file names, we should upload the renamed
>>>files to dlc.sun.com and set the Source urls to point there.
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>>Sorry, I don't understand this exactlly.
>>Could you please explain your concerns with detail?
>>The two files foo.zip and foo-versoin.zip are the same files and
>>checksums are same.
>>The zip%{?!_with_download:-date}.zip means the .spec works with both
>>foo.zip and foo-version.zip.
>>All I understand is the RE needs the version numbers for the internal
>>builds.
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>Damien explained this too.
>We have space here:
>http://dlc.sun.com/osol/jds/downloads/extras/
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I have committed *.zip dictionary sources to this location already with 
Damien's agreement.

regards,
yuriy

>I suggest we create a subdir under this, e.g. myspell and
>upload the versioned tarballs there.
>Then set the Source urls in the spec file to that url.
>
>Laca
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>>>But hey, isn't openoffice.org another project related to Sun?
>>>Can we just ask them to use versioned tarballs like any well
>>>behaved software?
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>>Yes, you're right but it seems currently StarOffice team does not work
>>on the dict packages when we discussed so lively and we GNOME l10n team
>>has generates this package. It seems we need to convince each maintainer
>>by dict language.
>>At the moment, I think the _with_download parameter is the instant
>>solution and it takes a long span to covince each maintainer.
>>
>>fujiwara
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>>>Laca
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>>>>If you have no time, I'll do that.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>fujiwara
>>>>
>>>>Takao Fujiwara wrote:
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>>>>>I wonder why you could change the owner. I think the implementation of 
>>>>>80% are comming from myself and note I have been on vacation since 
>>>>>Saturday.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>fujiwara
>>>>>
>>>>>Yuriy Kuznetsov wrote:
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Dermot,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dermot McCluskey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yuriy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Sorces of dictionaries were taken from community and their locations 
>>>>>>>>are correct in Source section of SUNWmyspell-dictionary.spec on the 
>>>>>>>>moment of creation of SUNWmyspell-dictionary-* pkgs.
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So my question is, are these external files likely to be overwritten
>>>>>>>by their communities, so that, for example, we could not
>>>>>>>reproduce a specific historical build because only the new
>>>>>>>source tarballs are now available?
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>We thought it would be a good idea to keep names as they are in 
>>>>>>community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Will you be putting copies of these tarballs in the internal
>>>>>>>tarball repository (I don't see them there currently)?
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Maybe you could unzip and rezip them with a version when doing so?
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>We probably can do this way.
>>>>>>Fujiwara, what do you think about this issue ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Also, copyright year (and owner?) in the header seem incorrect.
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Made correction(file attached).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>yuriy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>- Dermot
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
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