On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 22:06 +0900, Takao Fujiwara wrote:
> Please confirm it asap.
> My guess is that SO works with BSD-old.

I have no idea :(
> 
> > OK. I am not a legal person, so I think either Helen or Brian should
> > contact the original author Geoff Kuenning and the current author of
> > en-US.aff to see what the license now is. They should also decide
> 
> I think the better way is to remedy the original license with the autor
> Geoff Kuenning if the licese is still BSD-old.

Yeah, I agree. Changing it to BSD-new looks a good solution. As Helen
and Brian are in Chinese holidays until May, 7, they can begin to work
on this when they come back to work.

> 
> OK, it looks better to install en_US.aff at the moment from your
> request. But please note l10n cannot have the responsibility for the
> caused result.

Sure, I know. That file has been in S10 and Nevada for a long time. The
mozilla base team should be responsible for it. At this time, could you
ship the README file together with en_US.aff?  This will make us look
better, I guess.

Thanks,
Harry

> 
> Thanks,
> fujiwara
> 
> Harry Lu wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 18:32 +0900, Takao Fujiwara wrote:
> > The original English dictionaries were delivered by mozilla base team.
> > So Brian and Helen, could you please address this issue? I added some
> > comments based on my understanding below.
> > 
> >> 1. Do you need en_US.aff?
> > 
> >>From enchant's code and mozilla's code at
> > http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/extensions/spellcheck/locales/en-US/myspell/
> > and 
> > http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/extensions/spellcheck/myspell/src/ ,
> > 
> > The answer should be YES.
> > 
> >> 2. Do you have the proper legal review for English dictionary?
> > 
> > As we have an executive summary that codes downloaded from mozilla.org
> > and gnome.org won't need OSR, I guess we didn't do OSR for this
> > particular issue before.
> > 
> > There is no license file for en-US.aff under 
> > http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/extensions/spellcheck/locales/en-US/myspell/
> > 
> > and I cannot access
> > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries
> > by webcache.uk, either.  From the README file you provided below, I
> > guess it is released under the original BSD license which might be a
> > problem. If it has been changed to new BSD license, I think it should be
> > OK. I am not a legal person, so I think either Helen or Brian should
> > contact the original author Geoff Kuenning and the current author of
> > en-US.aff to see what the license now is. They should also decide
> > whether we need an OSR for it.
> > 
> > I don't know if you remove en-US.aff now, whether enchant and
> > thunderbird/firefox's spell-checking function still works. As this file
> > has been in S10 and Nevada for a long time, and both the Mozilla
> > community and the OpenOffice community are using it, maybe we can keep
> > it for now and find a legal solution at the same time. Maybe we should
> > ship the README file in the same directory, too.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Harry
> > 
> > 
> >> The README shows the license below.
> >>
> >> ---------- >8 ================
> >> 20040623 release.
> >> -- 
> >> This dictionary is based on a subset of the original
> >> English wordlist created by Kevin Atkinson for Pspell
> >> and  Aspell and thus is covered by his original
> >> LGPL license.  The affix file is a heavily modified
> >> version of the original english.aff file which was
> >> released as part of Geoff Kuenning's Ispell and as
> >> such is covered by his BSD license.
> >>
> >> Thanks to both authors for their wonderful work.
> >> ---------- >8 ================
> >>
> >> The README seems to describe en_US.aff is generated from english.aff
> >> and 
> >> it's under BSD license.
> >> It looks like a critical problem.
> >>
> >> We cannot deliver BSD-old licensed files with GPL.
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_License#UC_Berkeley_advertising_clause
> >>
> >> I also checked english.aff with:
> >> http://search.cranfield.ac.uk/htdig/english.aff
> >>
> >> It explains that this software must display the acknowledgment:
> >> #      This product includes software developed by Geoff Kuenning and
> >> #      other unpaid contributors.
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm afraid we cannot deliver en_US.aff.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> fujiwara
> >>
> > 
> 


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