Hi, Takao: For the English Dictionary, if you take the pkg from moz community, it's covered by our previous legal review; since all things from mozilla.org are covered by our Legal Executive Summary.
Thanks! Helen. >On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 18:32 +0900, Takao Fujiwara wrote: > > >>Beijing base team, >> >>I have a critical question regarding to this. >>Currently the english dicts are integrated in SUNWthunderbird and >>SUNWfirefox and I thought those legal reviews were done. >> >> > >Takao, > >The original English dictionaries were delivered by mozilla base team. >So Brian and Helen, could you please address this issue? I added some >comments based on my understanding below. > > > >>1. Do you need en_US.aff? >> >> > >>From enchant's code and mozilla's code at >http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/extensions/spellcheck/locales/en-US/myspell/ >and >http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/extensions/spellcheck/myspell/src/ , > >The answer should be YES. > > > >>2. Do you have the proper legal review for English dictionary? >> >> > >As we have an executive summary that codes downloaded from mozilla.org >and gnome.org won't need OSR, I guess we didn't do OSR for this >particular issue before. > >There is no license file for en-US.aff under >http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/extensions/spellcheck/locales/en-US/myspell/ > >and I cannot access >http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries >by webcache.uk, either. From the README file you provided below, I >guess it is released under the original BSD license which might be a >problem. If it has been changed to new BSD license, I think it should be >OK. I am not a legal person, so I think either Helen or Brian should >contact the original author Geoff Kuenning and the current author of >en-US.aff to see what the license now is. They should also decide >whether we need an OSR for it. > >I don't know if you remove en-US.aff now, whether enchant and >thunderbird/firefox's spell-checking function still works. As this file >has been in S10 and Nevada for a long time, and both the Mozilla >community and the OpenOffice community are using it, maybe we can keep >it for now and find a legal solution at the same time. Maybe we should >ship the README file in the same directory, too. > >Thanks, >Harry > > > > >>The README shows the license below. >> >>---------- >8 ================ >>20040623 release. >>-- >>This dictionary is based on a subset of the original >>English wordlist created by Kevin Atkinson for Pspell >>and Aspell and thus is covered by his original >>LGPL license. The affix file is a heavily modified >>version of the original english.aff file which was >>released as part of Geoff Kuenning's Ispell and as >>such is covered by his BSD license. >> >>Thanks to both authors for their wonderful work. >>---------- >8 ================ >> >>The README seems to describe en_US.aff is generated from english.aff >>and >>it's under BSD license. >>It looks like a critical problem. >> >>We cannot deliver BSD-old licensed files with GPL. >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_License#UC_Berkeley_advertising_clause >> >>I also checked english.aff with: >>http://search.cranfield.ac.uk/htdig/english.aff >> >>It explains that this software must display the acknowledgment: >># This product includes software developed by Geoff Kuenning and >># other unpaid contributors. >> >> >>I'm afraid we cannot deliver en_US.aff. >> >>Thanks, >>fujiwara >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Subject: >> Re: [jds-review] Request of SUNWmyspell-dictionary.spec code review >> From: >> Harry Lu <harry.lu at sun.com> >> Date: >> Wed, 02 May 2007 21:34:10 +0800 >> To: >> Takao Fujiwara <Takao.Fujiwara at Sun.COM> >> >> To: >> Takao Fujiwara <Takao.Fujiwara at Sun.COM> >> CC: >> Deirdre Williams <Deirdre.Williams at Sun.COM>, "Haixia.Wang" >> <Haixia.Wang at Sun.COM>, "Brian.Lu" <Brian.Lu at Sun.COM>, >> jds-review at opensolaris.org, "Irene (Shi Ying) Huang" >> <Irene.Huang at Sun.COM> >> >> >>On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 22:06 +0900, Takao Fujiwara wrote: >> >> >>>Please confirm it asap. >>>My guess is that SO works with BSD-old. >>> >>> >> >>I have no idea :( >> >> >>>>OK. I am not a legal person, so I think either Helen or Brian should >>>>contact the original author Geoff Kuenning and the current author of >>>>en-US.aff to see what the license now is. They should also decide >>>> >>>> >>>I think the better way is to remedy the original license with the autor >>>Geoff Kuenning if the licese is still BSD-old. >>> >>> >> >>Yeah, I agree. Changing it to BSD-new looks a good solution. As Helen >>and Brian are in Chinese holidays until May, 7, they can begin to work >>on this when they come back to work. >> >> >> >>>OK, it looks better to install en_US.aff at the moment from your >>>request. But please note l10n cannot have the responsibility for the >>>caused result. >>> >>> >> >>Sure, I know. That file has been in S10 and Nevada for a long time. The >>mozilla base team should be responsible for it. At this time, could you >>ship the README file together with en_US.aff? This will make us look >>better, I guess. >> >>Thanks, >>Harry >> >> >> >>>Thanks, >>>fujiwara >>> >>>Harry Lu wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 18:32 +0900, Takao Fujiwara wrote: >>>>The original English dictionaries were delivered by mozilla base team. >>>>So Brian and Helen, could you please address this issue? I added some >>>>comments based on my understanding below. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>1. Do you need en_US.aff? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>From enchant's code and mozilla's code at >>>>http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/extensions/spellcheck/locales/en-US/myspell/ >>>>and >>>>http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/extensions/spellcheck/myspell/src/ , >>>> >>>>The answer should be YES. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>2. Do you have the proper legal review for English dictionary? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>As we have an executive summary that codes downloaded from mozilla.org >>>>and gnome.org won't need OSR, I guess we didn't do OSR for this >>>>particular issue before. >>>> >>>>There is no license file for en-US.aff under >>>>http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/extensions/spellcheck/locales/en-US/myspell/ >>>> >>>>and I cannot access >>>>http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries >>>>by webcache.uk, either. From the README file you provided below, I >>>>guess it is released under the original BSD license which might be a >>>>problem. If it has been changed to new BSD license, I think it should be >>>>OK. I am not a legal person, so I think either Helen or Brian should >>>>contact the original author Geoff Kuenning and the current author of >>>>en-US.aff to see what the license now is. They should also decide >>>>whether we need an OSR for it. >>>> >>>>I don't know if you remove en-US.aff now, whether enchant and >>>>thunderbird/firefox's spell-checking function still works. As this file >>>>has been in S10 and Nevada for a long time, and both the Mozilla >>>>community and the OpenOffice community are using it, maybe we can keep >>>>it for now and find a legal solution at the same time. Maybe we should >>>>ship the README file in the same directory, too. >>>> >>>>Thanks, >>>>Harry >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>The README shows the license below. >>>>> >>>>>---------- >8 ================ >>>>>20040623 release. >>>>>-- >>>>>This dictionary is based on a subset of the original >>>>>English wordlist created by Kevin Atkinson for Pspell >>>>>and Aspell and thus is covered by his original >>>>>LGPL license. The affix file is a heavily modified >>>>>version of the original english.aff file which was >>>>>released as part of Geoff Kuenning's Ispell and as >>>>>such is covered by his BSD license. >>>>> >>>>>Thanks to both authors for their wonderful work. >>>>>---------- >8 ================ >>>>> >>>>>The README seems to describe en_US.aff is generated from english.aff >>>>>and >>>>>it's under BSD license. >>>>>It looks like a critical problem. >>>>> >>>>>We cannot deliver BSD-old licensed files with GPL. >>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_License#UC_Berkeley_advertising_clause >>>>> >>>>>I also checked english.aff with: >>>>>http://search.cranfield.ac.uk/htdig/english.aff >>>>> >>>>>It explains that this software must display the acknowledgment: >>>>># This product includes software developed by Geoff Kuenning and >>>>># other unpaid contributors. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I'm afraid we cannot deliver en_US.aff. >>>>> >>>>>Thanks, >>>>>fujiwara >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
