Wow, thats pretty good doc improvements, thanks. I have pushed my changes
that enables:

- Pool machine instances and keep it ready for reuse
- Each Machine when returned to pool, all processes owned by the user are
killed
- SlaveController.install now returns Future, that is each Slave
installation happens in separate thread

Kohsuke,  There seems to be regression and subworld bound classes to not
see the field injections. the only way for injections to work is via
constructor parameters but that makes no sense for tunable optional params.
I swear it was working till cd142f180043dc1b41aaed542f5efd88e9562bad.
 something changed somewhere in guice modules?






On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected]
> wrote:

>
> I've spent several hours working on the documentation of this.
>
>   https://github.com/jenkinsci/acceptance-test-harness
>
> I'm still trying to make this work on Jenkins, and Ulli reported a failure
> to run, so there's still some rough edges, but I think it's making progress.
>
> My favorite addition is prelaunching Jenkins instance [2], which
> drastically reduces the time it takes to iteratively develop a test.
>
>
> [1] https://jenkins.ci.cloudbees.com/job/core/job/acceptance-test-harness/
> [2] https://github.com/jenkinsci/acceptance-test-harness/blob/
> master/docs/PRELAUNCH.md
>
>
> On 02/28/2014 10:38 AM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote:
>
>> I've promoted our selenium test harness [1] a lot in the last few months
>> on my
>> trips to various places, as well as in Jenkins Scalability Summit. I see
>> a great
>> opportunity in this, in that:
>>
>>    - when large users write their acceptance tests on the same format and
>> share
>> it in the community, it creates a larger pool of test cases that we can
>> reuse.
>>
>>    - the harness acquired ability to launch complex fixtures (external
>> systems)
>> through docker, allowing us to test more interesting scenarios that are
>> hard to
>> do in the unit tests. For example, I'm not testing JIRA plugin with real
>> JIRA.
>>
>>    - we want to start doing more non-functional tests, like creating a
>> Jenkins
>> master with 100 slaves, put some load on it for a few hours and make sure
>> it
>> works all right.
>>
>> Wherever I show it, I see people agree with the ideas. I talked to my
>> colleague
>> Vivek offline, and he is interested in helping me make this happen --- he
>> has
>> developed a plugin in the very early days, and he's well versed in Java
>> and Ruby!
>>
>> One of the common feedbacks I've heard from people during my pitch of this
>> effort is that this project being in Ruby creates a cognitive disconnect,
>> given
>> that Jenkins developers are primarily Java people. The toolchain involved
>> in
>> running is also little bit alien to them, and so is the environment for
>> writing
>> tests. So I can see why there's the question of "why Ruby just in this
>> project?"
>>
>> I've been hesitent to spend time porting harness to Java, because it
>> didn't feel
>> like the best way to spend our precious time. Over time I think I've
>> managed to
>> learn enough of the Ruby hacking and the tooling, to be reasonably
>> productive
>> with it, too. But nonetheless I felt like it's always an option that I
>> can come
>> back to.
>>
>> But as Vivek and I were talking about implementing some missing
>> functionalities
>> to achieve these goals, I realized that once we start adding more code to
>> it,
>> it'll become very difficult to do the porting. So suddenly I started
>> seeing
>> selenium-tests being in Ruby as a risk (to the potential adoption), and
>> the
>> opportunity to correct it is now or never.
>>
>> So Vivek and I are trying the time-bounded approach to this problem; we
>> are
>> going to spend one day (today) to try to port it over to Java. If at the
>> end of
>> the day we don't think it's doable, or if we hear back from the community
>> that
>> it's an insanity, we'll stand corrected and keep on the selenium-tests
>> project.
>> So please share your thoughts (and my apologies in advance that I didn't
>> float
>> this idea sooner in the list.)
>>
>> The repository where I'm doing this is
>> https://github.com/jenkinsci/acceptance-test-harness. The plan is to
>> rewrite
>> page objects, step definitions, and JenkinsController in Java, swap
>> Capybara
>> with WebDriver, but keep all the cucumber features intact.
>>
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/jenkinsci/selenium-tests
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