when JUC EU was planned - the goal has always been to find a central location where folks from diff parts of EU can conveniently attend. But it didn't turn out that way - mainly local people attended. And of course one big event in EU is very costly. The CB-Jenkins Summits will provide the oppty to bring Jenkins to local areas as well as keep overhead down.
On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote: > > Yes, the downside of not having JUC in Europe has been considered. > > One of the problems we had in the past few years with JUC in Europe has > been that we have never managed to create a truly pan-Europe event. When we > do JUC in Paris, only French people came. Did one in Berlin and only > Germans came. This year was in London and neither German nor French came. > So I believe a part of what led into the proposal (and Alyssa can correct > me if I'm wrong) is that the European audience would be served better by > CloudBees-Jenkins Summit part of the proposal, which allows us to run a > sizable local event in multiple locations while controlling the production > overhead (such as CfP, organizing agenda, etc.) > > > 2015-10-20 3:03 GMT-07:00 James Nord <jn...@cloudbees.com <javascript:>>: > >> Taking off my cloudbees hat and putting on my old hat being based in >> Europe. >> >> Getting approval to attend conferences abroad (outside Europe) for me was >> not always easy - as it involves large travel and time lost due to this. >> As such it was easier to go to a european conference. I also feel that >> yes you get more people in USA-CA but that this could just a critical mass >> and a direct result of its much easier to go to something local than it is >> to travel 9 hours around the globe. Do you have stats of where people came >> from in the last even - where they predominantly from the bay area? >> In the London event I met people that where very basic users of Jenkins >> (just starting) and it was easy for them to go to a local conference. >> Would these same users make the same investment to go somewhere accross the >> globe - I personally don't think so - which would be a big shame. >> >> The JAMs fill a gap - but I'm not sure that this gap is filled yet - or >> that it will be filled by next year - certainly there is nothing in the UK >> that I know of - and even then we would need something based in the north >> west as well as somewhere around London. >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 4:51:39 AM UTC+2, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote: >>> >>> Putting my CloudBees hat on, I'd like to discuss the following proposed >>> changes to the events in 2016, where we are moving away from JUC into a new >>> model. >>> >>> >>> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Proposal+-+Revisiting+JUC+in+2016 >>> >>> I put this up for the project meeting agenda in 1.5 week, but I hope to >>> get discussions going well before that. >>> >>> -- >>> Kohsuke Kawaguchi >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Jenkins Users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to jenkinsci-use...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-users/fd26a289-b46b-4c38-a8b0-34bcfc50feab%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-users/fd26a289-b46b-4c38-a8b0-34bcfc50feab%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Kohsuke Kawaguchi > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/0a84666c-6a00-4489-8350-51c5e0cebaf8%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
