On 20/10/15 22:21, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote: >> Yeah, I've had the same problem with trying to justify one-day >> inter-continental conference trips, so being longer would help — though >> note that this proposal would likely only be a two-day conference for >> the majority of potential non-US participants (i.e. they're not likely >> to care about Day 0). > > OK, so sounds like we should brainstorm on additional activities in Day > 0 that makes the event more attractive.
Well, it depends on how many international visitors you want or need to attract :) > Maybe hands on labs, plugin development class room? Sure. I've also been to a few conferences (mainly Android dev) where there was a full- or half-day barcamp, which I found pretty good. >> Being adjacent to other events makes sense as well — much like happens >> for a bunch of events before and after FOSDEM. > > OK. Do we know events in the bay area that we can piggyback on? JavaOne, DockerCon, Velocity, perhaps? > On 20/10/15 13:34, Robert Sandell wrote: > > I had a somewhat different problem, that it was hard to motivate the > > travel expense across the pond for a mere one day conference. > > A three day conference would be easier to motivate in my experience; > > previously working for a larger corporation with large investment in > > Jenkins at least. > > The first Jenkins user conference in 2011 was easy to motivate since it > > was adjacent to Java One. The others were harder. > > > > Having one bigger one could perhaps also give some breathing room to > > other more local/smaller conferences > <http://www.code-conf.com/jues15/> > > on the subject :) > > > > /B > > > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Manuel Jesús Recena Soto > > <rec...@gmail.com <mailto:rec...@gmail.com> <mailto:rec...@gmail.com > <mailto:rec...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > > > Hello James, > > > > (reply in line) > > > > 2015-10-20 12:03 GMT+02:00 James Nord <jn...@cloudbees.com > <mailto:jn...@cloudbees.com> > > <mailto:jn...@cloudbees.com <mailto:jn...@cloudbees.com>>>: > > > Taking off my cloudbees hat and putting on my old hat being > based in Europe. > > > > > > Getting approval to attend conferences abroad (outside > Europe) for me was > > > not always easy - as it involves large travel and time lost > due to this. As > > > such it was easier to go to a european conference. I also > feel that yes > > > you get more people in USA-CA but that this could just a > critical mass and a > > > direct result of its much easier to go to something local > than it is to > > > travel 9 hours around the globe. Do you have stats of where > people came > > > from in the last even - where they predominantly from the > bay area? > > > In the London event I met people that where very basic users > of Jenkins > > > (just starting) and it was easy for them to go to a local > conference. Would > > > these same users make the same investment to go somewhere > accross the globe > > > - I personally don't think so - which would be a big shame. > > > > > > The JAMs fill a gap - but I'm not sure that this gap is > filled yet - or that > > > it will be filled by next year - certainly there is nothing > in the UK that > > > I know of - and even then we would need something based in > the north west as > > > well as somewhere around London. > > > > I had the opportunity to attend JUG London and was a great > experience. > > It would be a pity don't have this event in Europe. > > > > As you pointed, JAM events can fill this gap. > > > > In Spain, there are two JAM starting (Seville and Barcelona). > Maybe > > someday, we can organize a bigger event. Another open source > > communities do something similar. > > > > Regards, > > > > > On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 4:51:39 AM UTC+2, Kohsuke > Kawaguchi wrote: > > >> > > >> Putting my CloudBees hat on, I'd like to discuss the > following proposed > > >> changes to the events in 2016, where we are moving away > from JUC into a new > > >> model. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Proposal+-+Revisiting+JUC+in+2016 > > >> > > >> I put this up for the project meeting agenda in 1.5 week, > but I hope to > > >> get discussions going well before that. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Kohsuke Kawaguchi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to jenkinsci-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:jenkinsci-dev%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/56265384.20600%40orr.me.uk. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > -- > Kohsuke Kawaguchi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to jenkinsci-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:jenkinsci-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAN4CQ4y%2BQ%3Dd4YMp238LH59kDTaG_48Lr2_%3DeUSDxAEDz8CQnAg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAN4CQ4y%2BQ%3Dd4YMp238LH59kDTaG_48Lr2_%3DeUSDxAEDz8CQnAg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. 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