I’ll note the illegal reflection is only an issue starting with Java 16, and 
that can be “fixed” with some add-opens CLI options to Java. See for example 
how the ErrorProne compiler plugin requires several of those flags in a build 
with recent Java versions (and I’d expect similar for Lombok and other projects 
that access JDK internals).

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Matt Sicker

> On Jan 4, 2022, at 09:34, Basil Crow <m...@basilcrow.com> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 12:48 PM Mark Waite <mark.earl.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I think there are changes that are as yet undiscovered on the removal of 
>> Java 8 support.  I believe that finding and fixing those surprises will need 
>> more time.
> 
> We are already aware of issues with WebSockets (fixed), JAXB (fixed in
> all but the least used plugins), Linux agent installers (nobody seems
> to care), and illegal reflective access warnings (not blocking). I
> doubt we will discover many new issues with switching the _runtime_ to
> Java 11 in any but the least used plugins.
> 
> On the other hand, switching _builds_ and _tests_ to Java 11 does
> often require the usual plugin refresh process: updating the plugin
> parent POM and plugin BOM, dealing with Enforcer, updating the
> Jenkinsfile, adjusting annotations, tweaking mocks, suppressing
> SpotBugs false positives that only show up on Java 11, triaging
> miscellaneous test failures, etc. This seems to be the majority of the
> remaining work, but it does not affect end users.
> 
> I am not sure that additional time will incentivize the completion of
> the remaining work, whether it be production changes to long-tail
> plugins or build metadata updates. If a plugin is unmaintained or its
> maintainer has not yet refreshed it by June 2022, I doubt that this
> status will change by September 2022. If anything, delaying the
> release until September may (ironically) decrease the perceived need
> to take action on the part of plugin maintainers.
> 
> My point is not that risk does not exist, but that additional time is
> not likely to reduce risk. Therefore, I see no reason to wait until
> September.
> 
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