I like the planning idea, I think updating the minimum in Feb 2021 for weeklies and hence June for LTS is a bit too aggressive.
I think we should *at least* target the LTS _after_ June. And in the meantime keep communicating on this timeline like we had done for Java 8. Blogs. Tweet encouraging to update to Java 11, etc. Messages on the users ML... Le mar. 21 déc. 2021 à 21:01, Tim Jacomb <timjaco...@gmail.com> a écrit : > Back to Java 11 :) > > (I suggest another thread for Java 17 Basil has been doing some great work > there) > > There's been an 'admin monitor' around for quite a while now encouraging > users to upgrade to Java 11 if they are on 8. > > The JavaVersionRecommendationAdminMonitor > <https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/blob/master/core/src/main/java/jenkins/monitor/JavaVersionRecommendationAdminMonitor.java> > was > introduced in (approx): > > - 2.296 - 1st June 2021 > - 2.303.1 - 25th August 2021 > > Since that went in Java 11 usage skyrocketed according to > https://stats.jenkins.io/plugin-installation-trend/jvms.json > > Basil has created a PR <https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/pull/6092> > for updating the monitor with a specific date (to be filled in) for > deprecation. > > I think we should target the LTS after next for dropping Java 8 support. > > That would be: > > - Weekly - 2nd February (week after baseline selection for next LTS) > - LTS - approx 7th June (roughly when ths LTS after next will be > released) > > Next LTS would also be possible, we could do: > > - Weekly - January 19th > - LTS - March 9th > > Thoughts? > > Thanks > Tim > > On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 22:19, Basil Crow <m...@basilcrow.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 1:53 PM 'Jesse Glick' via Jenkins Developers >> <jenkinsci-dev@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> > >> > Is this mostly about Servlet API types, or other EE packages? >> >> Servlet types and JavaMail were the most common cases I saw in the >> prototype, along with a new package namespace for FileUpload to go >> along with the new servlet types. Seems more straightforward to do one >> large Jakarta migration rather than several smaller ones. This is >> going to be a major disruption anyway, so might as well just get it >> over with. The only migration I didn't tackle in the prototype was the >> Jakarta Dependency Injection API, because Guice doesn't support the >> new types yet (google/guice#1383). I imagine Guice will support them >> at some point in the future; Spring Security and Commons FileUpload >> only support the new types in snapshot releases at present. My gut >> feeling is that this migration will probably kick into full gear >> around late 2022 or early 2023. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Jenkins Developers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to jenkinsci-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAFwNDjpqkX2mBsBoh7LrwCBJtU%2B3ZGdvR-T9c3A3ij2mew-3ww%40mail.gmail.com >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to jenkinsci-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAH-3Bie-uApHh6mDCSWOMzR%2BWBNC5ZZmjdVDXGd2cS8iaDtc3Q%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAH-3Bie-uApHh6mDCSWOMzR%2BWBNC5ZZmjdVDXGd2cS8iaDtc3Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CANWgJS6KhURORvDwO7CMfw%3DuLe7QTg2poAojwu6WuX50_sbyLQ%40mail.gmail.com.
