+1 for using 2.541 as new baseline

On Sunday, 14 December 2025 at 12:42:18 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:

> Maybe we should not use dates and discuss weekly release numbers;-) I was 
> irritated about your March deadline.
>
> I am fine with using 2.541 as latest baseline for the LTS that supports 
> Java 17. 
> Weekly releases 2.54x where x is 2, 3 or another small number should 
> switch to Java 21 as baseline (whenever a PR has been created, is there a 
> similar PR available for the Java 11 -> Java 21 switch?). We should not 
> wait for March to make the transition to have time to fix potential 
> problems.
>
> That means, plugins can start to switch to Java 21 soon when they use this 
> new Java 21 Jenkins weekly baseline version. 
>
> Am 13.12.2025 um 15:03 schrieb Mark Waite <[email protected]>:
>
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 6:04 AM Ullrich Hafner <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I think we should not wait another four months, we are already late in 
>> our plan:
>> [image: Figure 4]
>>
>> We agreed in a long discussion to switch to Java 21 this year and that 
>> already was a compromise (actually we planned to switch to Java 21 right 
>> after the drop of Java 11). So I think we should stick to that plan (that 
>> has been accepted by the Governance board) and drop Java 17 the next weekly 
>> after the next LTS baseline switch. This is already later than planned. I 
>> also did not hear any complaint from users that still want to use the Java 
>> 17 runtime so why should we wait for that step again. Java 21 support ist 
>> already available for two years now. 
>>
>>
> When you say that we should "drop Java 17 in the next weekly after the 
> next LTS baseline switch",  I assume you mean 2.541 as the next LTS 
> baseline switch.  The 2.541.1 release is scheduled for Jan 21, 2026.
>
> If that assumption is correct, then I think that your idea matches mine.  
> The 2.541.1 LTS will support Java 17 because 2.541 weekly supports Java 
> 17.   Weekly releases after 2.541 can drop support for Java 17 so that the 
> LTS baseline selected on March 4, 2026 will not support Java 17.  Someone 
> (who?) can submit the pull requests necessary to drop Java 17 support from 
> a Jenkins weekly release after 2.541.  The new LTS baseline that releases 
> on April 15, 2026 would be the first LTS to drop support for Java 17.
>
> Mark Waite
>
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