I believe all of you completely missed my earlier point. Daniel
-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen via Jfw Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:21 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Drew Hunthausen Subject: RE: Keeping Up With Technology If Jaws was free I too would love it from a financial standpoint, but it probably would only be updated about every 10 years when some techy had a few extra minutes to play around with it. Freedom scientific is a company and everyone needs to make a living. I also wish I didn't have to pay for my internet or cable!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 8:06 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Carolyn Arnold Subject: Re: Keeping Up With Technology I thought that too about 13, dummed it down back to 12. "Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Marquette via Jfw" <[email protected]> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Cc: "Ed Marquette" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:49 PM Subject: RE: Keeping Up With Technology > Mitchell is right. > I too always upgrade. Sometimes, as in JAWS 13, I upgrade but > never use it. For instance, with JAWS 13, I used version 12 until > version 14 came out. For my dime, I thought JAWS 13 broke more > than it fixed, and sometimes versions of software will do that. > Still, it is such a hassle skipping versions that it makes sense, > at least for me, always to keep up to date. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Michal Nowicki via Jfw > Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:39 PM > To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' > Cc: Michal Nowicki > Subject: RE: Keeping Up With Technology > > "Skipping five or so versions" is not cheaper if, all of a sudden, > a new version comes out containing something you really want or > need. It would be cheaper if FS charged a flat upgrade fee, but > that's not the case; the older the version, the greater the cost > of upgrading to the newest release. That is why I always keep my > license up-to-date, even if a particular release does not contain > any new features I feel I'll need. > > -----Original Message----- > From: JFW [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad > Martin via Jfw > Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:34 PM > To: The Jaws for Windows support list. > Cc: Brad Martin > Subject: Re: Keeping Up With Technology > > I can't really fault Freedom Scientific for this. Designers do > crazier and crazier things with software and websites every day, > and the people at FS aren't psychic. It's been this way since > before I got into computers I'm sure, and that was 1992. You can't > redesign software to fix a problem until the problem exists. So > what happens. A new version of Windows comes out, and then JAWS > has to be rewritten to handle the new stuff. A new version of > Office comes out replacing menus with ribbons, and again, the > software has to be rewritten to deal with the new layout. Netflix > changes their website, and again something has to be tweaked to > handle the new wrinkle. If the site designer would use Alt tags on > their graphics, graphical links wouldn't be an issue. > > The other side of that coin is that you have to do your part, and > that means updating to the latest version of JAWS if you want the > latest fixes to the latest problems. I don't generally update to > every new release, because for what I do, I can usually skip five > or so versions. > It's cheaper that way, and I don't feel like I'm missing out. If > you're more on the cutting edge of technology, you may have to > update more frequently. > > Which brings me to my final point of the night. People gripe about > the cost of assistive technology, but as rapidly as things change, > programmers are always having to work writing code to accommodate > those new features and problems. And unlike, say, Microsoft > Office, which people use by the millions and millions of copies, > assistive technology has an extremely small market share. People > want the very latest and greatest, and they want the software > authors to work for free. > > Is what we have perfect? No. But if you were using JAWS back in > the days of Internet Explorer 3.0, you remember when the only way > to read a news article was with the JAWS cursor (there was no > virtual cursor), and you had to read three or four columns of > articles at one time with all the stories mixed together. We've > come soooooo far since 1997 when I started teaching people how to > use the Internet. When you step back eighteen years, it's really > quite amazing how rapidly our technology catches up with the rest > of the world compared to how long it used to take. > > Brad > > On 6/22/2015 6:25 PM, Kevin Wollenweber via Jfw wrote: >> You know, with all the hardships that I read within this EList, >> especially regarding Netflix and other such sites-I know I'm > having my >> share of woes regarding these-I think the fault lay not only > with >> sites like Netflix that change configurations as often as they > change >> their underwear, but also with Freedom Scientific for not > keeping the >> programs compatible and current with a lot of new programs and >> changing graphics. If screenreaders were able to recognize > changing > graphics, I think things would be a lot more accessible. >> No one saw this Netflix change coming; I mean, the site is > definitely >> changed completely to the point where I cannot find my DVD > queue; if >> they were phasing out the DVD queue, news of this should have > been >> announced to subscribers long ago, but if this is merely a >> configuration issue where more is made of graphics, well, then I > guess >> that, right now, they'll lose a lot of subscribers who can't > figure >> out the situation, but my hope is that screenreading software is > >> keeping up with the times, because they're certainly *NOT* > slowing >> down > for us. >> >> >> >> Kevin >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachme > nts/ >> 20150622/f12f1ed9/attachment.html> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> > > -- > Brad Martin > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> My Facebook > page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: > facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons> > My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachme > nts/201506 > 22/2fb05c0a/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
