That's true, unless it has an HTML overlay.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
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Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 11:06 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: Jaws and customer service platforms

If it's an Oracle-based CRM or database, it will likely be difficult to use
with JAWS.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "toml614 via Jfw" <[email protected]>
To: "Brad Martin via Jfw" <[email protected]>
Cc: "toml614" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 07:30 AM
Subject: Jaws and customer service platforms


Good morning all, I was checking to see how to trick Jaws into working with 
customer service platforms. Also, what works best with Jaws? What questions 
need to be asked of a work site to see if it is compatible?

On Jul 7, 2015 8:20 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> My experience was quite the opposite actually. Now, let me say that for
> me the male voice was better than the female voice in the Kindle for PC
> with Accessibility plugin software, and as much as I hate slow speech, I
> found the slower speed less jarring than the faster rate. The male voice
> is Tom from the Realspeak set of voices, so it's like reading a novel
> being read by the guy who reads bulletins on your weather radio.
> Certainly it's not as good as a human narrator. Having said that, I have
> read entire books that way, and particularly with nonfiction, I didn't
> find it too bad. There are keystrokes (I can't name them right now
> because Kindle for PC is on my laptop and I am not) to allow you to go
> back to the previous page, and I think paragraph by paragraph. Also,
> when I close the book and reopen it, I'm at least at the top of the page
> where I left off. It wouldn't be my first choice for reading a book, but
> I haven't given up on it either, and I do love that I can buy a book
> like my sighted friends and start reading it in two seconds. I like it
> well enough to use it, but it's not my favorite way to read.
>
> Brad
> On 7/7/2015 5:13 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
> > Rick,
> >
> > I tried it several months ago with a book I needed to read on short 
> > notice. I remember finding it extremely frustrating. As I recall, I 
> > couldn't stop and have it start at the same point, but perhaps there's a

> > bookmark function that I somehow missed. As I recall, I also couldn't 
> > conveniently go back to re-read a sentence or paragraph. As Soronel 
> > indicates, the voice was horrible to listen to and hard to comprehend. 
> > In the end, I bought the paperback and performed OCR on it so that I 
> > could read it with JAWS.
> >
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick 
> > Miller via Jfw
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 5:51 PM
> > To: The Jaws for Windows support list.; The Jaws for Windows support 
> > list.
> > Cc: Rick Miller
> > Subject: Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?
> >
> > Have you ever tried to read an actual e-book from Amazon using the 
> > Kindle ap? If so, were you able to do it?
> >
> > Rick Miller
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message----- 
> >> From: Soronel Haetir via Jfw <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Jul 7, 2015 9:56 AM
> >> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]>
> >> Cc: Soronel Haetir <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?
> >>
> >> Neither the regular or accessible kindle app REALLY "works" with jaws,
> >> what THE accessible version does is detect that an accessibility
> >> program is running (at least jaws, NVDA and window eyes are detected,
> >> don't know about others) and then enables self-voicing. My chief
> >> complaint is that the choice of voices is very limited and of even
> >> lower quality than my book port.
> >>
> >> If I have the choice between kindle, PDF and text kindle is always my
> >> last choice of formats.
> >>
> >> On 7/7/15, Rick Miller via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> No. I just went straight to the regular Amazon page and to the book I
> >>> wanted to download. Then I just downloaded the regular ap. If there is

> >>> a
> >>> thing with a disability plug-in, then I will just remove what I 
> >>> downloaded
> >>> this morning.
> >>>
> >>> Rick Miller
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message----- 
> >>>> From: Gary King via Jfw <[email protected]>
> >>>> Sent: Jul 7, 2015 7:29 AM
> >>>> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]>
> >>>> Cc: Gary King <[email protected]>
> >>>> Subject: Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?
> >>>>
> >>>> Rick,
> >>>> Did you get the Kindle for PC with Accessibility Plugin? If you 
> >>>> didn't
> >>>> download that version, go to
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200596280
> >>>>
> >>>> and read the information on that page. There is also a download link.
> >>>>
> >>>> With this version of the program, JAWS reads the menus, while the 
> >>>> built-in
> >>>>
> >>>> speech that comes with the program reads the text of the book.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you are reading a novel or other book that you can read straight
> >>>> through,
> >>>> the program works fairly well. However, if you need to go to 
> >>>> different
> >>>> parts of a book or search for specific content, forget it. Navigation

> >>>> is
> >>>> limited, and JAWS can't read the text in the book directly. The JAWS 
> >>>> OCR
> >>>> feature can give you access to the text of each page, but multiple 
> >>>> columns
> >>>>
> >>>> cause reading difficulties.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you have an iPhone or iPad, the iOS app works much better for 
> >>>> reading
> >>>> EBooks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gary King
> >>>> [email protected]
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>> From: "Rick Miller via Jfw" <[email protected]>
> >>>> To: <[email protected]>
> >>>> Cc: "Rick Miller" <[email protected]>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 6:38 AM
> >>>> Subject: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Dear Listers:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am considering trying to purchase an e-book in Kindle edition from
> >>>>> Amazon.
> >>>>> I have downloaded the Kindle ap, but first I need to sign in and
> >>>>> register
> >>>>> it. But first, I need to know from somebody if it has ever worked 
> >>>>> well
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> JAWS. I am using JAWS 16. Have any of you out there been able to use
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> Kindle ap and read an e-book using JAWS? If so, how well has JAWS
> >>>>> worked
> >>>>> for you. Would any of you recommend using Kindle with JAWS?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rick Miller
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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