What about MVDA, which apparently works quite similarly to JAWS, and is
FREE.

Jim H

P.S.:   I know that this is "heracy"!

-----Original Message-----
From: Bissett, Tom [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:31 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

And that's the issue, the others just don't do all we need.  So there is the
trade off.  You are busy cursing FS for leaving out an optional utility and
praising another that as you said just don't do the job.  Doesn't make sense
to me.
Tom Bisset
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Aidan via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 6:04 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Aidan
Subject: Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

I totally agree. Thanks for those who support me. I think for most of us its
about time to move and talk with our wallits. I'm strongly considering to
move over to supernova. They don't upgrade every year for the sake of
meeting a stupid skedual, and therefore its cheaper to upgrade whenever it
arrives. Only thing is they stil need to support some apps better before I
can really make that switch.

On 05/11/2015, Curtis Delzer via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote:
> I mean, talk about blowing smoke, that is . . . definitely.
> That should always be a property of the new update, to make sure your
> personalized settings are integrated, and just because something new
> is so different, that only means that the developer must take care of
> the customer base so that the differences can be handled by customized
> settings which can be applied to the newer version. Talk about a crock
> of double talk, "working on it," when if the plan had been to not
> include a merge utility, that should have been in the stage of
> development from the get go, not "we're working on it," now.
> If a setting is so new, then double duh! some kind of utility to
> upgrade and update settings should be employed, not thrown into the
> discard.
> Thinking with their lack of ideas, it seems to me. How about that,
> "thinking with their lack of ideas."
> That's like saying, when the guy snores next to you as you whack him
> him to wake him up, "hey! hey!" "Wake up and go to sleep."
> duh! and double duh! Pure and simple, someone just . . . screwed up,
> and there is no denial that can make up for that.
>
>
>
> At 08:01 PM 11/4/2015, you wrote:
>>Well, I'm sorry!  FS telling us that they are "working on it" is just
>>not good enough!
>>
>>Can you tell that I'm upset?
>>
>>Jim H
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Melissa Stott [mailto:[email protected]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 9:49 PM
>>To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained
>>
>>I agree with Mike.  I'm sure that they are working on something.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mike B via Jfw
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 9:36 PM
>>To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>>Cc: Mike B
>>Subject: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained
>>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>There's no need to craft a petition or anything else.  Below tells
>>about  the Merge Utility & why it's missing in Jaws 17, for now
>>anyways.  This comes from What's new in Jaws 17.
>>
>>Merge Utility No Longer Available
>>
>>Major changes have been made to improve the JAWS localization process.
>> This
>>included reorganizing many of the JAWS settings files. Due to these
>>changes, the Merge utility is no longer installed with JAWS 17 as
>>settings from  prior versions cannot be merged. We are planning a
>>solution for the future which will replace this utility and provide an
>>even greater benefit for our customers.
>>
>>Take care.
>>Mike
>>This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers, next year anyways!
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Tom Behler via Jfw
>>To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
>>Cc: Tom Behler
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:32 PM
>>Subject: RE: merge utility
>>
>>
>>I don't know how appropriate or beneficial this could be, but if
>>someone  on the list would be willing to craft a petition regarding
>>this issue, we  might be able to get enough signitures to make an
>>impact.
>>
>>Sometimes, I just scratch my head at these kinds of decisions.
>>
>>I certainly will sign any such petition, if it is created.
>>
>>I'm looking to upgrade to Jaws 17, possibly during the college
>>teaching semester break, but that won't be for about 8 weeks for me at
>>this point, and I sure would like to have the use of the merge
>>utilities feature  again.
>>I know there have been issues with it at times, but the convenience
>>and  ease of using it far outweighs any problems, in my opinion.
>>
>>Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrian
>>Spratt via Jfw
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:58 PM
>>To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>>Cc: Adrian Spratt
>>Subject: RE: merge utility
>>
>>I'm going to write to FS Tech Support and ask for this deficiency to
>>be fixed. I hope others will do the same so they realize how important
>>this  is.
>>Can you imagine a popular commercial application forcing users to
>>start  all over again with the settings they've created over the
>>course of years?
>> Note
>>that "merge" was misspelled in the subject line, which I've corrected.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maria
>>Campbell via Jfw
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:43 PM
>>To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>>Cc: Maria Campbell
>>Subject: Re: murge utility
>>
>>I agree completely.  Enough said.
>>
>>On 11/4/2015 4:23 PM, Aidan via Jfw wrote:
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > I'm very upset for fs removing the murg utility option in jaws 17.
>> > They have the excuse that older version settings can know longer
>> > being important in 17. I don't know if I must laugh. If they new
>> > that it would happen, why did they not make a priority to implement
>> > a replacement tool wich could be in 17?
>> > Now you have to manually change everything? Is it possible perhaps
>> > to use the settings packager to acomplish that?
>> > I find it so tragic that they spend the hole year on smart
>> > navigation, wich is not even such a remarkable feature, really this
>> > was going to be more bennifishil to more people and now that its
>> > not ready it will affect everyone negatively.
>> >
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>>--
>>
>>Sunny Day
>>Maria Campbell
>>[email protected]
>>
>>Trials without God will break you. Trials with God will make you.
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