Thought this may be of interest,
Jamal
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:27:59 -0600
From: "Kasten, Henry D SWF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: gw-info <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'gw-info' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Help: OSM16.dll is causing major problems. (fwd)
Hi,
I suppose their are some advantages to us knowing what is there when are
sighted counterparts don't see it on the monitor.
I wondered what was up whenever I had to fill out a form on the
Internet.
I guess, because my IQ is only slightly above that of a piece of
concrete, I have not been able to successfully fill out a form on the
Internet. So, I grab one of my co-workers, or if at home, one of the
family and get their help.
It used to drive me crazy when they would ask me where I was and I would
say right here, don't you here it?
They would say yes, I hear it but it sure ain't on the monitor.
Now I know neither of us are crazy. It's just the nature of the beast.
Henry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 7:42 AM
> To: gw-info
> Subject: Re: Help: OSM16.dll is causing major problems. (fwd)
>
> Jamal,
>
> I have seen Window eyes get more information despite the fact that it
> has no dependency on the video card. You can proove this yourself.
> Go into Windows Explorer and go into a directory where you know you
> have some long file names. Gothrought this file list with Windows,
> and then with JFW. You will find that JFW truncates the file names,
> and Window Eyes does not. I believe the reason behind this is that
> JFW only know about what is actually visible, and the file names
> apparently are not fully shown to some one visually looking at the
> screen. Window eyes apparently uses other methods of determining what
> information needs to be spoken, and thus reads the complete file
> names. I personally, am very glad it is done this way, and am
> thankful every time I am in a list of files...
>
>
>
> On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:04:27 -0500 (EST), you wrote:
>
> >Can someone explain what video info JFW says it gets that Window-Eyes
> does
> >not? I suspect that JFW is able to enrich its OSM by being more
> video
> >card dependent, that is, intercepting graphics routines at a lower
> level.
> >I don't know the technical details, however, and would like to
> advance my
> >knowledge in this area. The fact that Window-Eyes is not video card
> >dependent is a definate compatibility plus. Does GW Micro think it
> can
> >acquire the same info without the low-level dependence, or does it
> >consider the sacrifice of such info to be worth the compatibility
> >achieved?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Jamal
> >
> >
> >
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> >Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 00:46:07 -0700
> >From: Darrell Shandrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Help: OSM16.dll is causing major problems.
> >
> >JFW is so video card dependent because it utilizes video information
> to gain critical details about what is happening in
> >Windows and your running applications. Other screen readers like
> ASAW and Window-Eyes are not so video card
> >dependent. According to H-J, this video dependence in JFW is worth
> the information provided. I can't verify that
> >assumption either way, as JFW is definitely my primary screen reader.
> Regards.
> >
> >On Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:58:31 -0500, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:
> >
> >>The real question is if other screen readers are not having this
> problem,
> >>why is JFW? I tried a beta version of ASAW with the Rage Pro Turbo
> and it
> >>worked great. It does not however offer the flexibility that I get
> with
> >>JFW. I especially like the way JFW works with MSWord, and excel. I
> think
> >>the scripts give you the opportunity to work the way you want to and
> not the
> >>way someone thinks you should be working. On the other hand who
> cares what
> >>we think certainly not HJ. Believe me I have no problem with the
> staff at
> >>HJ they always treat me with respect, but they just can't answer my
> >>questions.
> >>
> >>
> >>-
> >>Visit the jfw ml web page: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~nallan/jfw
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >-
> >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~nallan/jfw
>
> --All the best,
> -- Rick Alfaro
> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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