From: Carol Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Carlos, Nick and Everyone!

One of the reasons why some are getting double messages is this:

Messages are being addressed to the mailing list and also to individuals in
the "To" or "CC" fields.

Take, for example, your lastt message, Carlos.

The header read as follows:

Reply-To: "Carlos a. Sanchez, Jr.  " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Carlos a. Sanchez, Jr.  " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: double messages
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:24:02 -0500
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Note there were two "Reply to" fields and, sure enough, when I addressed
this message, both Carlos and the JFW List were getting copies.

To prove it, I have left this with no alteration, so Carlos you should get
two copies of this!  <GRINS>

I have discovered in the past week or two just how important it is to check
message headers before they go out and, honestly, it shouldn't really often
be necessary (unless someone says they're going to be absent from the List
for a while) for a CC to be sent to an individual.  That's my general view
and I do recognise there are exceptions.

So, each time we get a double message, we ought to look at the headers and
see whether this is the problem before Nick has to check what's going on.

Sorry, Nick and all, for this "off topic" message but, because of the many
duplicates received, I guess it's really become a necessity and I thought
I'd explain what I was seeing.

I suggest everyone thinks twice before responding to this on the list.  If
it can be done privately, or by writing directly to Nick, let's do it and
keep the traffic down!


--
Carol Pearson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





At 12:24 08/02/99 -0500, Carlos a. Sanchez, Jr. wrote:
>Hi, Nick and all:
>this problem was happening to me too for about a whole week. never saw
>the end of it because I moved to school and switched to the Dell
>computer.  But yeah, messages were coming in tripples.  And even though
>I would delete them, they would  keep coming back.  It never happened to
>me before since I have been with Erols, but whatever it was i really
>drove me nuts.  Well, On the new computer, all is well!  I'll let you
>guys know if the problem continues on the think pad when I try to log in
>with it, over the weekend.
>
>Later,
>Carlos
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Walter Siren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 9:38 AM
>Subject: Re: double messages
>
>
>:Nick, I don't know about the rest of the users, but when I get double
>:messages, it is not the whole group.  It will be two or three of the
>messages.
>:At 07:54 AM 2/8/99 +1100, you wrote:
>:>Hi all
>:>this double message problem can happen if you lose the connection
>during
>:>the process of getting your mail.  If you lose the connection, the
>mail
>:>you have already downloaded may not be deleted from the mail server.
>The
>:>next time you pick up
>:>your mail, you'll probably get the same messages again.
>:>
>:>Regards Nick
>:> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:>
>:>
>:>On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>:>
>:>> Now that you mention it, George, I too have had the double messages
>:problem.
>:>> It turned out to be something like slow e-mail speed from my ISP.
>:>> Bob
>:>> -----Original Message-----
>:>> From: George Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>:>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>:>> Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 12:55 PM
>:>> Subject: Re: double messages
>:>>
>:>>
>:>> >Hi Dan:
>:>> >I also got double messages on some of the messages.  I think there
>was
>:>> >something wrong as my server was very slow, with my first attempt
>to down
>:>> >load, it finally timed out and I had to restart.  The second time
>it ran
>:>> >much better, so there was something going on.
>:>> >
>:>> >George
>:>> >----- Original Message -----
>:>> >From: dan thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>:>> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>:>> >Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 12:08 AM
>:>> >Subject: double messages
>:>> >
>:>> >
>:>> >>Hellow Listers,
>:>> >>
>:>> >>On Sonday, I down loaded my email and got doubles of several
>messages.
>:>> >>this has happened before but I thought  my server was acting
>silly.
>:>> >>However I checked and they said they only send what is emaile.d.
>I knew
>:>> >>this but checked anyway.
>:>> >>
>:>> >>I know I can  just choose not to open the given message if it has
>the
>:same
>:>> >>subject line as another.  But how can it be stopped to reduce
>clutter?
>:>> >>
>:>> >>thanks in advance, smile.  t
>:>> >>-
>:>> >>Visit the jfw ml web page:
>http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~nallan/jfw
>:>> >>
>:>> >
>:>> >-
>:>> >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~nallan/jfw
>:>> >
>:>>
>:>> -
>:>> Visit the jfw ml web page: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~nallan/jfw
>:>>
>:>
>:>-
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>:>
>:>
>:Walter
>:-
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>
>-
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