Hello listers.  Since HJ has made their recommendation regarding which AV product to 
use I felt I'd better step in and put 
in my two cents.  One the functions of my job is to handle all of the virus security 
for our company.  I have spent four 
years collecting viruses and studying them to see how they work and I have evaluated 
several different AV packages for 
not only their detection and disinfection capabilities, but also for their 
speech-friendliness so that I can use them 
effectively.  Bare with me for a moment while I explain something about AV programs.  
Although most of you already 
know this I feel it would help if I spelled it out anyway.  All antivirus packages 
consist of a minimum of two components.  
Some have more than these two, but almost all of them have at least these two.  The 
first can be thought of as an on-
demand virus scanner.  This component does not stay in memory.  It only works when you 
tell it to workor if a scheduler 
runs it automatically.  this is the component that scans your hard drive for viruses.  
If it finds one you can decide what to 
do next.  The second component is the background scanner.  This is the part of the 
program that resides in your 
computer's memory scanning every program or document, (depending on what type of 
document it is), when you try to 
open it.  iN this way the AV program can catch a virus before it spreads.  Having said 
all of this we can now go on to 
speech-friendliness.  Most AV packages, Mcafee, Norton, DR Solomon, ANtiviral Toolkit 
Pro, Vet, Thunderbyte etc, are 
speech-friendly where the on-demand scanner is concerned.  You can initiate a scan and 
you can read the dialogue box 
that pops up if a virus is found and select what action you wish to take.  Where the 
real speech issue comes into play is 
when the background scanner finds a virus.  An example would be if you click on Eudora 
to run it and the background 
scanner finds a virus in Eudora.exe.  The two most popular AV packages, Norton and 
Mcafee, will lock your system 
when the background scanner finds a virus.  Now your speech is gone.  A dos message 
box appears on the screen 
saying that a virus has been found, but you can not read it with your screen reader.  
If there is no sighted assistence 
available you are now thrown into a guessing game with your computer's well being at 
stake.  What blind people who 
use these packages do is take a chance and hit r for repair and then the speech comes 
back.  This may sound okay, 
but the problem comes into play especially with Norton.  Norton's background scanner 
not only scans for viruses, but 
also virus-like activity.  This means that in our previous example when you click on 
eudora.exe and Norton locks your 
computer you don't know if Norton has locked your computer because it has found a 
virus or because eudora.exe has 
been replaced with some trojan horse program that is trying to alter the bootsector of 
your hard drive so simply hitting r 
may not solve the problem because you are trying to solve the wrong problem.  For this 
reason I personally do not 
recommend Mcafee or Norton as your primary AV program.  This doesn't mean that they 
are worthless.  ON the contrary, 
they are both viable programs for their on-demand scanners, but not for their 
background scanners.  DR Solomon is a 
nother good product, but as someone pointed out it has been purchased by Network 
associates who owns Mcafee and 
the idea is to meld the two products together.  The reasoning is that Dr Solomon is a 
far superior product to Mcafee in its 
detection and disinfection ability, but where it has traditionally failed is that it 
is very hard to get updates.  It does not 
have any built-in functionality to update itself over the internet which Mcafee does.  
Thus they are combining the power 
of DR Solomon with the ease of use and updating of Mcafee.The program that I use as my 
primary AV program is 
antiviral Toolkit Pro.  The reason why I use it is because its background scanner does 
not lock the system.  If the 
background scanner finds a virus JFW keeps right on talking and I can decide how to 
handle the situation.  Also, it is 
updated almost weekly and this updating can be done right over the net.  It's 
detection and disinfection rates are way up 
at the top with some other programs and all of the features work with JFW with no 
scripting.  I also use Norton 5.0 as a 
second on-demand scanner because it is a very good product and it is good practice to 
have more than one AV 
program, (similar to getting a second opinion when a doctor says you have a disease.)  
Note that I specified that I use 
Norton only for its on-demand scanner.  This is because #1, you should never have two 
background virus scanners 
running at once and #2, its background scanner locks speech when it finds something.  
Again these are only my 
personal opinions, but I thought some clarification about how AV products work with 
relation to speech was necessary.  
When considering the purchase of an AV package be aware that just because you can use 
its on-demand scanner 
easily with speech that is not the whole story.  There is still the matter of what the 
background scanner will do to your 
screen reader if it finds a virus.  Try different programs to see how they perform 
under these conditions.  Okay, you're 
probably asking, "How will I know if the background scanner will lock my speech unless 
I have a real virus to test it 
with?"  Fortunately there is a way to do this.  Many AV packages can detect a dummy 
virus called the EICAR standard 
virus.  EICAR stands for the european Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and it 
is not a virus at all.  Rather it is a 
dummy file that AV programs will detect as a virus so you can test your scanner.  Here 
is how to make it.  Open up 
notepad or another text editor and put in only the following line.  Hint, you can cut 
and paste it right from this email into 
notepad.

X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*

Now save the file as plain text and rename it to eicar.com and you are all set.  Now 
you can test your on-demand and 
background scanners for screen reader compatibility.  I know I have been kind of 
long-winded here, but I hope some of 
you find this clarification useful and ehlpful.
--Bob





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