Let's get something straight. Perhaps I got too sharp-tongued to Simon,
but I want to make it extremely clear that I'm not necessarily
contemplating suing anyone. What I said (and ALL I said) was that legal
action was an option, given the appropriate clause in the copyright
statute and the pertinent case law. Whether anyone sues is really his
own business; however, if anyone finds a way to copy that bloody floppy,
JH won't have a leg to stand on if they choose to react.
>From: Aaron Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: jfw authorization disk
>Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 07:38:36 +1000
>
>Bwahahahaha, typical american sue-the-pants-off-everything-that-moves
type attitude.
>You're getting rediculous.
>It has already been pointed out to you on numerous occasions that you
_can_ archive jaws.
>You can do it as many times and as freely as you like.
>You can't copy the key disk however. This is just the same as you can't
copy a dongle, or any other form of copy protection device - thats the
point.
>The cases you sight bare absolutely zero relevance in this situation.
>The Vault vs Quaid case proves that software vendors have the right to
sell software that will back up software for which you own the license.
>Nowhere does it mention that software companies do not have the right
to copy protect software in any way, shape or form.
>You're reading more into the decision than you ought.
>Having said that, if you can come up with a way to copy the auth disk,
then go ahead and do so.
>Providing you do it only for archival purposes you are within your
rights.
>This legal stuff is just getting way too stupid.
>Either come up with some constructive ideas or shut up.
>Suing HJ is counter-productive of course, if you'd thought about your
last post you'd know that.
>Regards
>Aaron
>On Mon, Mar 22, 1999 at 10:45:35AM -0500, Charles Lott wrote:
>> Hey, guys:
>>
>> I promise you, this is my swan song. Fact is, there is something you
>> could do, but I admit it's drastic. Based on the information
contained
>> in the Web article I posted yesterday, you could actually sue HJ, or
any
>> other vendor, for preempting a right established both in the
copyright
>> statute and in case law...the right to archive. It seems to me, as I
>> think it through, that if you have the right to archive, that
preempts
>> and interdicts any right of a vendor to prevent archiving through
copy
>> protection. I don't know whether that specific question has ever
been
>> litigated, but the outcome sure would be interesting. In summary,
the
>> point is that your right to archive and the vendor's right to
>> copy-protect cannot coexist; so in the kind of suit I would suggest
>> (which, incidentally, should be class action), the courts would be
>> forced to decid once and for all which right takes precedence. I
would
>> gladly put forth that we must live with that decision, whichever way
it
>> might go.
>>
>> Goodby!
>>
>>
>> >From: "Hutson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Subject: Re: jfw authorization disk
>> >Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 20:44:07 -0600
>> >
>> >Come on guys. There's nothing we can do to change HJ's opinion of
the
>> >authorization disks & we can sit & complain till we are blue in the
>> face
>> >which I think we are. go to the chatroom that has been set up for
this
>> kind
>> >of fussing & lets clear the list. I think theback logs are full of
this
>> kind
>> >of discussion & don't think it has helped one bit.
>> >Server name is:
>> >irc.scscorp.net
>> >Room is:
>> >#JAWS
>> >If no one is there encourage others to jin youat certain times &
build
>> this
>> >room up.
>> >Rhonda Hutson
>> >
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