Hi, Scott. I only read manuals when I have to.-:)) Playing with the
program and finding out how it works is much more fun.-:) Although I do
find that I must read the manuals more then my colleagues do who are sighted
just to find out how the program is supposed to work for them. After doing
this, I can get a handle on whether the program will work with JFW with some
hands on experience.
=Beth=
=Beth Hatch-Alleyne=
Justice Means Not Just Us.
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-----Original Message-----
From: scott fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: jfw and help
>
>
>Beth,
>
> Now you know that you will always be in business. Know why? Cause there
>are always people like me, too damn lazy to read all these manuals. Heck
>manuals to me are like word problems in math.
>
> At 10:14 PM 3/22/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hello, Frank. As a technical support representative, I will not disagree
>>with you that people should read their help file and manuals, it would
>>certainly save me some time off the phone.-:) However, it may help to
take
>>things with a grain of salt. The help files for some of these common
>>applicaitons, and especially for the uncommon ones, don't write help files
>>with blind people in mind. Some of them hide keyboard shortucts or don't
>>post them at all. Many of us have found work arounds and ways to do things
>>that people who use a mouse in the conventional manner may have never
>>thought of, let alone used on a daily basis.
>>
>> I find this to be the case all the time when I talk with sighted
>>customers on the phone. When their mouse won't work, when they have
trouble
>>clicking the right mouse button with their left hand, those things I use
as
>>a blind person every day seem to help my sighted colleagues as well.
>>
>> Again, please don't think I'm disagreeing with you, I'm just trying to
>>be realistic about our time and effort.
>>
>>=Beth=
>>=Beth Hatch-Alleyne=
>>Justice Means Not Just Us.
>>E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Frank Ibarra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 5:33 AM
>>Subject: jfw and help
>>
>>
>>>I have to say that this has been a great list for I have learned things I
>>>would had never learned other wize. Scripts, techniques, and tricks to
>>>make other applications work.
>>>Second, I am not the moderator, nor do I wish to act on his behalf. I am
>>>simply stating the concerns of a member with 10 hours of work per day and
>>>not a lot of time to sift through all the messages.
>>>I only wish that people would consult their help files a little more
before
>>>turning to the list to ask questions. It is really time consuming to
sift
>>>through 40 messages dealing with the same topic; a topic which is
clearly
>>>discussed in the jfw help file, or a question that is clearly answered in
>>>the help file.
>>>In posting this, it is not my wish to anger anyone. It is merely to
point
>>>out that the help files of applications are written for a purpose. Eight
>>>times out of ten, the questions about popular programs (outlook express,
>>>icq, explorer), to name a few have most of the answers in help files.
>>>I only wish that people accept this as it is meant. It is not my wish,
as
>>>I said before, to hurt anyone's feelings. I know theree are a lot of
>>>beginners, and I love helping just as much as anyone.
>>>Be safe.
>>>Your friend,
>>>
>>>Frank.
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>-
>>>Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net
>>>
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>>
>Scott - The Raging Bass Man
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