Doesn't the graphics labeler let you specify separate names for graphics for
speech and braille use? I see edit boxes called "label" and "braille label".
I imagine "label" is used for both speech and braille unless you stick
something else in "braille label".

Cheers,
Jerry

----- Original Message -----
From: Harry Bassler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: JFW with braille display


> Hi Shawn,
> A friend told me once there is a way of assigning abbreviations to "scroll
down"
> & such to "sd" or whatever you like.
> I forget how to do this & I never encountered any documentation about it
or of
> anything for Braille by HJ.
> Ithis is annoying & I wish I could recall how to do this for your sake &
my own.
> I don't know how true this is, but a member on this list mentioned that HJ
has
> engaged a Braille transcription group to furnished HJ with 500 Braille
manuals.
> I hope this is true & that the Braille features will be described fully in
the
> manuals.
> I do wish HJ would be more infomative about their dlings.
>
> Regards,
> Harry Bassler
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn M Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Friday, May 07, 1999 3:58 AM
> Subject: Re: JFW with braille display
>
>
> >Greetings to the list.  I am using a braille lite 40 as a display and for
> >the most part, I use the structured mode.  It seems to work okay for me.
I
> >haven't had much complaint as far as it's use is concerned other than the
> >fact that I get tired of seeing the words scroll down symbol while
reading
> >a document or e-mail.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get rid
> >of that or am I stuck with it.  Also, I'm not sure what the big
difference
> >in structured, line, and speech box modes are.  If anyone would be
willing
> >to explain the differences, I would be much abliged.  Thanks in advanced.
> >
> >Shawn At 09:47 AM 5/6/1999 -0400, you wrote:
> >>Speech Box Mode has, as far as I have read, never been properly
documented.
> >>It contains almost all text sent to the synthesizer. To the extent
anything
> >>is spoken that is not in the Speech Box  buffer, to that extent Braille
> >>users are not being properly served. Speech Box Mode gives Braille users
> >>access to everything that was (or would have been if they don't have a
> >>synthesizer) spoken.
> >>
> >>The Speech Box buffer contains the last 20 lines sent to the
synthesizer.
> >>This is not enough. I've been asking for years, and promised for years,
that
> >>the buffer be enlarged. Nevertheless, it is invaluable for those
occasions
> >>when straight line mode yields confusing results (such as in the Braille
> >>configuration section of Config Manager).
> >>
> >>The combination of Line Mode and Speech Box Mode give the Braille
(including
> >>Braille only) user access to the full power of JFW.
> >>
> >>Structured Mode, a flawed concept from the beginning, gives you access
to
> >>tidbits. For example, in the spelling checker in Outlook Express, I
suddenly
> >>come up with:
> >>
> >>ok
> >>
> >>That's all. just
> >>
> >>ok
> >>
> >>No way to go up, down or sideways. no way to tell what I'm expected to
ok.
> >>No clue even as to which program I'm talking to.
> >>
> >>Another example is the Index page in the Jaws help system. There's a big
> >>long explanation given in speech. This information is accessible on the
> >>screen using line mode. But using structured mode it's just not there.
> >>
> >>This is a terrible choice for the default Braille mode.
> >>
> >>I'm sure that if I used Structured Mode more I would probably figure out
how
> >>to jump through some extra hoops to get it to work, so don't take my
> >>description of limits as gospel. Still, I've been writing to a
profoundly
> >>deaf person with access to Braille only. With no access to training
tapes
> >>and little to the Jaws help system, they were unaware of the keystrokes
to
> >>change from one Braille mode to another. I am only astonished this
person
> >>can do much of anything at all!
> >>
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> >>
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