Hi chris
What about the problem of loosing speech after starting a download in the
microsoft update page and requiring a reset to get speech back ?
i am not the only person having this trouble with jfw331 with the windows
update.
----- Original Message -----
From: Development Manager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 10:27 PM
Subject: RE: jfw 3.31 final release! Does mine have a bug?
> Hi,
>
> We had to make a hard decision on the "Numpad" problem.
>
> If the user had JFW 3.30 and ran the JAWS merge they would get the word
> "numpad" spoken before each item they pressed on the numeric keypad. This
> was the result of an undiscovered bug in JFW 3.30.
>
> We had only one way to remedy this problem. We could have left key labels
> out of the merge. This, of course, would have meant that all of the other
> labels, which the users added themselves, would be lost.
>
> Certainly, this was a lose-lose situation. We elected to keep the users'
> data intact as removing the word numpad in the key labels dialogue is
pretty
> simple. Once the word is removed in the configuration file, they will not
> be merged into future installations of JFW.
>
> Thanks,
> cdh
>
>
> Chris Hofstader
> Development Manager
> Henter-Joyce, Inc.
> (727) 803-8000
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tusing
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 6:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: jfw 3.31 final release! Does mine have a bug?
>
>
> Greetings,
> My version of 331.35 does not say numpad before those numpad numbers
> either. However, I believe I am in the minority, because I upgraded from
> 3.2 by using the May 99 C D (33.022) and then went straight to the 331.35
> (Oct. 15) which was downloaded. By this I mean, I skipped a lot of
> betas. Perhaps that is why my version does not say "numpad". HOpe thisis
> of some help.----- Original Message -----
> From: Muhammad Fazil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: jfw 3.31 final release! Does mine have a bug?
>
>
> > I've been hearing a big hue and cry on this list, regarding jaws3.31.35
> say
> > "numpad" when one types a number on key-pad. Mine doesn't "numpad," is
it
> a
> > bug?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Walter Siren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 1:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: jfw 3.31 final release!
> >
> >
> > > Ron, while I do agree with you about the fact that hj should have
fixed
> > the
> > > bugs especially the numpad number speaking, fixing that one would not
> have
> > > caused any additional problems. However, it took you longer to write
> that
> > > message that it would have taken you to fix that problem, and take out
> the
> > > numpad out of the numpad numbers. I did not enjoy having to do that
> > > either, but it is done, and that part works fine. I think there are
> other
> > > bugs worse than that one.
> > > At 12:37 AM 10/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >I am afraid I simply can not sit here and read any more and keep my
> > > >keyboard shut, so to speak. Why should anyone pay the price for a
> > program,
> > > >like JFW, and then, have to go in and completely reconfigure the
entire
> > > >number pad to get it to speak correctly or in a manner that will not
> > annoy
> > > >the purchaser every time he/she uses it?
> > > >
> > > >This is absolutely ridiculous, and it was made abundently clear to HJ
> > > >before this last release was released!
> > > >
> > > >Now, maybe some of you have nothing better to do with your time than
to
> > go
> > > >in and fix HJ's bugs, but I simply do not have the time nor the
desire
> to
> > > >do that, and I know I am not alone here on this point.
> > > >
> > > >The comments I made before on this list were perhaps not conveyed
> > > >adequately, but I meant then, and still stand on my position, that HJ
> > > >should have caught many of these problems in-house before turning it
> over
> > > >to the beta testers on this list, and then, many of the problems and
> > > >concerns mentioned repeatedly on this list were either ignored or
> > otherwise
> > > >not included in this last release, even after many of you put in
> > > >considerable effort in trying to help the process. Instead, we are
> > already
> > > >informed that a bug patch is forthcoming for the release they just
> > > released.
> > > >
> > > >Do not misunderstand. I have been a strong supporter of JFW and HJ,
> and
> > I
> > > >still am. It is the best product of its kind on the market.
However,
> > this
> > > >last series of betas and near releases has created a lot of confusion
> and
> > > >controversy, which could have been avoided by slowing down the
process
> a
> > > >little and working the product through a few more itterations
in-house
> > and
> > > >then, with the HJ selected beta testers.
> > > >
> > > >Ron Milliman
> > > >At 09:45 PM 10/18/1999 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >>You don't have to do any script writing to take that numpad out of
> those
> > > >>numbers. Here is how you do it. It is tedious, but you must go
> through
> > > >>each number.
> > > >>
> > > >>1, press insert numrow+6 for config file,
> > > >>2, press shift+control+d for default,
> > > >>3, press alt+s for settings,
> > > >>4, press k for keyboard,
> > > >>5, press n until you hear numbers,
> > > >>6, start arrowing down to each number,
> > > >>7, tab twice to change key,
> > > >>8, press the space bar to change it,
> > > >>9, Now, type in just the number, and press enter,
> > > >>10, keep this up until you have finished number 9,
> > > >>11, tab to ok,
> > > >>12, press alt+f4, twice,
> > > >>At one of those times, it will ask you if you want to save changes,
> then
> > > >>press enter on yes, and now you will only hear the numbers when you
> > press
> > > >>the numlock, and start pressing numbers.
> > > >>At 12:22 AM 10/18/99 -0400, you wrote:
> > > >>>To answer your rudely worded question about what's wrong with
hearing
> > > >>>"numpad" every time a key on the numpad is pressed, many of us like
> to
> > > >>>enter numbers with the numpad instead of the top row of the typing
> > > >>>keyboard. It is much quicker to varify what we're typing if we
don't
> > > >>>have to hear "numpad" before every digit! Your post also makes the
> > > >>>rather strange assumption that we are all intimately familiar with
> > > >>>scripts and how to change them. This may come as a shock to you,
but
> > > >>>most of us are computer users, not computer programmers. I am very
> > > >>>grateful to the script writers on this list who have given a great
> > > >>>deal of help, realizing that most people have very little knoledge
> > > >>>about programming.
> > > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>From: Steve Matzura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 3:49 PM
> > > >>>Subject: Re: jfw 3.31 final release!
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>And what on Earth is so wrong with this behavior, and why on Earth
> > > >>>would you consider it a bug? If the script says
SayString("NUMPAD")
> > > >>>then it's gonna say Numpad. If you don't like it, then rip it out.
> > > >>>That's why they give you the source to the scripts in the first
> place.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 03:52:14 -0400, you wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>Hi Chris
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>I also found the same things with jfw 33135.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>If you don't mind me asking how do you go about correcting the num
> > > >>>pad
> > > >>>>problem only for now since i only got jfw 3.30 with a new p2 w98
> > > >>>system
> > > >>>>early in june.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>thanks in advance...
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>-
> > > >>>Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>Walter
> > > >>-
> > > >>Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >-
> > > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Walter
> > > -
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> > >
> >
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