Hello "Jeff,
Why not wait until the product is released before judging it's effectiveness
on Java-related items?
Thanks,
Dennis Brown, DB Tech! 770-465-9621
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Paget" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: HJ GeekSpeak #1
> Hi Listers,
>
> I have quoted a section from the Geek Speak intro below, underneath
> I have added my comments and questions, I freely admit I'm not a
> programmer, but I have been a computer technician for more than 20
> years, I consider I have enough experience to make a valid comment.
> Insert follows.
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Development Manager wrote:
> > HJ GeekSpeak
> > December 15, 1999
>
> > Programs written with Java 1.2 display no actual text on the screen.
All
> > text, controls and other information displayed in these programs are
> > rendered as a graphic. The traditional JAWS cursor cannot be used with
these
> > applications. To provide the information to JFW users, we have
introduced a
> > new virtual cursor. The user can employ this Virtual Java Cursor to
roam
> > around the application window but will hear the information in a
logical,
> > rather than spatial manner. The Virtual Java Cursor gives access to all
> > elements in a Java program and the actual mouse cursor, drawn on the
screen,
> > will move to the location being read by the Virtual Java Cursor.
> >
> > Henter-Joyce is committed to providing increased accessibility to new
> > technologies as they emerge. The support for the Java Accessibility
Bridge
> > is yet another in the series of exciting new products delivered by JAWS
for
> > Windows.
>
> End of quoted section.
>
> First a comment on the current Virtual Cursor, my wife's Jaws version
> is 3.2, so we do not have first hand experience with the current
> Virtual Cursor, however reading from this list and others it's simply
> not working as described and advertised.
>
> Next the Java cursor, you will note from the quoted section that this
> Java cursor is supposed to read graphic images, this appears to assume
> each graphic will be "tagged" with a text description, while the
> standard may call for a text description programmers are notorious
> for ignoring standards.
>
> Next point, Java is the current "hot" programming tool, as such it is
> used extensively in internet applications, Jaws as a program for
> accessing the net is failing to deliver what the users want, this
> can be seen from the number of requests from people to visit sites
> that are difficult to access or are unreadable, the fault is not
> entirely with Jaws, there are many ways to program net sites, the
> HTML standard is about a loose as the description of "meat" in a
> supermarket pie.
>
> Above all else, JAWS should address the issues which have plagued
> it's users since the introduction to the Windows 9.x, rather than
> following the micro-slop ideal of packageing software and letting
> the users sort out the bugs.
>
> I note with interest that the introduction of of all of this
> "wizardry" is slated for version 3.5, now allowing for my lateral
> method of thinking, you get two "free" upgrades, after paying
> for them, ( like the extras table in health insurance,) anyone
> wish to place bets that there will be two upgrades between now
> and the release of 3.5. Yup, you guessed it, the users will be
> paying for another "bug fix".
>
> Now if they can describe the functions and working premise of the
> Java cursor it must already be in the Alpha testing phase, I
> suggest all those who are currently turning off their
> Virtual cursor because it fails to function demand a free
> upgrade path to the new Java cursor. Assuming it works as advertised.
>
> Regards Jeff
>
>
>
>
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