As for my personal opinion any humans living in this world should be given right to practice any religion they want. It has been happening throught the world : Convertions What's wrong in Convertions, be it to Hinduism, to Chistianity , to Islam, to Buddhism. Anyone want to have debate on why conversions should not be allowed in a secular country like India?
Bye, Sachi From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WILLIAM KISKU Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 1:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: RE: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] Conversion law violation is a criminal offence Well I am not a politician: I hate politicians. >From my basic general knowledge the Indian constitution is based on British constitution, which is a western/christian based constitution, therefore contrarary to Hindutvas constitution. As far as my understanding goes, it is NOT illegal/criminal to convert christians back to Hindutva, but criminal to convert adivasis/tribals/ into Christianity. Advocate Ashutoshjee... Can you throw some light on this and educate the forum on the right of an individual to practice a religion based on the human right issue? William Kisku --- Gladson Dungdung <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:nfindia%40rediffmail.com> > wrote: > Hello, > > It's not the matter of Gladson or Venki. The real > matter is the state is becoming the violator human > rights in the name of freedom of religion and so on. > How can the State dictate which religion I should > follow, profess or decline? > > Father of the Nationa, Mahatma Gandhi had very clear > idies about it. He said that I'm a sanatan Hindu and > it's my personal matter therefore the state should > not dictate my religion. We have the right to > freedom of religion as the fundamental rights > guaranted by the Constitution of India under Article > 25 and the state is duty bound to ensure these > rights. If the state decides about whom I should > believe, what I should wear and so on then where my > freedom is? > > When a tribal or dalit becomes Christian, Muslim or > Budhist peole of the so-called main streem of the > society lose their sleep but why people do not raise > any question when a Sharma, Verma, Mishra and list > goes on accept/change their religion. > > Another thing is when a tribal becomes Christian, > Muslim or Budhist so-called people call it > "conversion" but when the same fellow becomes > 'Hundu' then they call it 'Ghar Vapsi'. what a > wonderful defination of conversion we have. > > This is nothing than the power politics. The major > reason is that the Tribals and Dalits are > challenging the statu quo as a result the Brahmins > have already lost their control in the politics and > now they are also going to lose their social > control, which they are not able to digest therefore > they blam in many ways to stop the social change > process. But nothing is going to work we will bring > about change in the society at any cost. I know that > many people feel uncomfortable in these issues > therefore it must be stopped but sometimes I > surprise that inspite of many request why do peole > put these matterials in the group. I don't have any > problem if people want to discuss let's discuss it, > otherwise I would requet to the Moderater please > don't pass any matter like this, which is > meaningless to discuss in the forum. > > rgds > Gladson > > > > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 BARBARA ali wrote : > >Hi, > > > >Its as simple as this, each one mind your own > business and let Venki and Gladson go hand in hand > and stand where ever they have to if they want to do > what ever they wish with their own lives. > > > >Bye > > > >BARBARA ALI > >SHARJAH > >UAE > >PO BOX 38485 > >Mobile No: 0097150-6914668 > >URL: > Http://angloindianheritagecentre.googlepages.com/anglo-indianbiographies > > > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Jharkhand%40yahoogroups.co.inFrom> : > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:prabirkc%40yahoo.comDate> : Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:01:51 > -0700Subject: Re: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] Conversion > law violation is a criminal offence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hope somebody prevents the Dalai Lama, Rajneesh and > Mahesh Yogi's followers from entering Gujarat! > >Now what will we do if Venki converts Gladson to > Jainism? Will they arrest Gladson or Venki? > >And > >Prabir--- On Sat, 4/26/08, ven > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:ahvenkitesh%40gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > >I believe such a law such be enacted in Jharkhand > as soon as possible since the state is plagued by > unethical conversions of the poor.Conversion law > violation is a criminal offencehttp://timesofindia > .indiatimes. com/Ahmedabad/ Conversion_ > law_violation_ is_a_criminal_ offence/articles > how/2984048. cms26 Apr 2008, 0332 hrs IST,Rajiv > Shah,TNNGANDHINAGAR: From now on, anyone wishing to > convert will have to tell the government why they > were doing it and for how long they had been > following the religion which they were renouncing, > failing which, they will be declared offenders and > prosecuted under criminal laws. Forced conversion > could land those responsible a three-year jail term. > This clause is contained in the rules of the > anti-conversion law which came into effect on April > 1. The new law is called Gujarat Freedom of Religion > Act, 2003, and took five years to be implemented > because of the failure of the state government to > come up with rules on the kind of information to be > provided when applying for permission to convert to > any religion. The Bill confirms that Jainism and > Buddhism are not sub-sects of Hinduism. The rules > have been published in the Gujarat government > gazette. The rules make it obligatory for a priest > seeking to convert someone from one religion to > another to take prior permission of the district > magistrate in order to avoid police action. > >. > > > > > > > > > William Kisku
