A major change is needed at this stage first in the Primary and Secondary Educational System. Equal opportunity is required to be given to everybody in this matter of early education. Most of the issues of reservation or no reservation in Educational Institutions will be taken care of and if the citizens are alert and talk rationally, politicians who are out to exploit anything and everything at any and every cost can be kept at bay.
GOI has come up with Right To Education Bill 2008 and will introduce this in the next session. It is being done as a result of a 1993 SC judgement. The RTE Bill is in favour of Market forces and has a lot of loopholes which will be widened by the market forces later. To close them serious discussion and action is required at this stage. I have uploaded Dr. Anil Sadgopal's 3 write ups in http://jvmjkd.blogspot.com/ <http://jvmjkd.blogspot.com/> The website of Knowledge Commission about the Common School System is also there. I request a serious deiscussion on the basis of Dr. Anil's write ups in the above link and the presentations in the KC link. Dr. V.N.Sharma --- In [email protected], "Braja Mishra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I fully agree with our friend's concern . In fact 'reservation' is required > only for the educationally and economically backward castes and tribes not > for all SCs & STs. Further, the students should get proper coaching to > maintain a reasonable level of standard in any course/discipline. > Reservation in any case should not undermine the merit. Unfortunately merit > has always been undermined and thereby the fall out is the STIGMA for the > reserved category students or employees. For no fault of SCs & STs, they > suffer humiliation in the hands of forward castes , and same is the case for > the people of so called forward castes who suffer humiliation when a less > qualified and less competent persons from SC & ST category exercises bossism > over them in government or public sector undertakings !! > > In fact, Government's policy of reservation itself is a politically > motivated design, where reservation is extended indiscriminately to all > families of SCs and STs. Every political party treat SCs , STs and Muslims > as Vote Bank , not truly an integral part of the society. Removing the > stigma ( debramhanising) requires sincere and honest efforts of the policy > makers and the civil society organizations. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of adi_rkmv > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:18 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] Re: [Debrahmanise the Education system] > > > > Sirs, > I myself belonging to SC/ST community,felt the system prevailing in > the country.My elder brother,secured 4th rank in West Bengal Class > 10th matriculation,State ranked in Jharkhand with 98%in CBSE Class > 12th result,was selected in CBSE Medical with 2nd all India ranking > without reservation,5th in BHU witout reservation, selected in IIT > 45th rank without reservation. But he did a mistake in filling the > form for AIIMS entrance. He mentioned SC there. He was too confidant > that he would be scoring above 80% and will get all India ranking but > alas,he saw his rank 1st among the SC, securing 56% marks. > This is how we are seen and projected in the country. My brother took > admission in AIIMS but he says only two months after how he > experienced casteism there.Not only students but teachers also > demeaned them. > This is an earnest request,please dont harass us in the name of > reservation.Every one has the potential to prove himself. Then why > this type of things happening. > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:Jharkhand%40yahoogroups.co.in> , > S kumar kumar_8134@ wrote: > > > > >>>he says at the end of the message that if the status of the > candidate is known to be reserved, he would be eliminated at the > preliminary stage itself...! it is clear from this that the writer > feels anyone from SC or ST categories should not aspire for any > professional or > > higher education - if they do, the system will see to it that they > are eliminated at the preliminary stage.>>> > > > > The Multinationals and Corporates who participte in the placement > process in IIM-s or IIT-s, could easily identify those admitted > without merits under reservation from the CV-s considered, and screen > them out at preliminaries. You like it or not, this is a fact. > > > > SC/ST can aspire and achieve the professional levels provided they > are given extra coaching and supports without branding them SC/ST. > The categorisations have placed them at a disadvantage as even the > intelligent among them are excluded due to this "branding". > > > > I still hold my view that the reservations should be totally > abolished even in admission, application forms no Caste should be > entered, and the deserving should be given additional coaching and > financial support to the extent needed. Those enjoying "free lunch" > throughout their career, would not bother to exert themselves, be it > education of jobs. > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/18/08, Dr. Dhuni Soren dhuni.soren@ wrote: > > > > From: Dr. Dhuni Soren dhuni.soren@ > > Subject: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] Re: [Fwd: Debrahmanise the Education > system] > > To: [email protected] <mailto:Jharkhand%40yahoogroups.co.in> > > Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 3:08 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very well written and expresses the points of views of most members > > of the group.But it is sad that some of our members are not heeding > > them and appears to have some sort of ideological and religoius > > agendas and keep on harping the same tunes irrespective of the > > feelings and sentiments of other fellow members. They had enough > time > > to go on and I urge them to move on to other important and pressing > > issues of the country and Jharkhand region. > > Dhuni Soren > > > > -- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.co.in, Cynthia Stephen <cynstepin@ ..> > > wrote: > > > > > > Friends: > > > > > > While I do read most of the posts in your group, I find that some > > members appear to be severely opinionated and biased and even use > > offensive language in the discourse. This is why I keep my comments > > to the minimum. > > > > > > The reason Why I am posting this is to correct some common > > misconceptions beihg repeated ad nauseam by a certain section of > > Indian society who believe that they alone are the bearers > of 'merit' > > by virtue of higher marks in exams due to preivileges of caste, > class > > and urban location, having access to educated and comfortable > > employed parents, a regular income, and good education in standard > > english medium schools in urban locations. Many of the so-called > > reservation candidates still come from rural, mother-tongue- > medium, > > and are first generation or at most second generation educated, > while > > the so-called meritorius feel so insecure by the rise of even these > > groups into the hallowed portals of colleges, medical and > engineering! > > > > > > The most deep-rooted casteism of the writer is evident in the > fact > > that while he pours scorn on the Dalit surgeon because of the > > presumption that the surgeon passed wih minimum pass marks, > > he says at the end of the message that if the status of the > candidate > > is known to be reserved, he would be eliminated at the preliminary > > stage itself...! it is clear from this that the writer feels anyone > > from SC or ST categories should not aspire for any professional or > > higher education - if they do, the system will see to it that they > > are eliminated at the preliminary stage. > > > > > > Finally, the writer appears totally unaware of the fact that > > while those outside the category do not hesitate to claim the > > beneifits of reservations using false certificates, there are > > thousands of backlog vacancies in education and employment in these > > categores too, for precisely the reason the writer lets slip - the > > system, manned by those steeped in exclusionary beliefs, see to it > > that even legitimately qualified and eligible candidates enjoying > > reservations are kept out of their just dues. This is the reason > for > > the continuing disparities in the economic and social situation of > > these categories. If they system had implemented the reservations > > fully and fairly the need for them would have been absent by now. > > Ambedkar did say that reservations should be for a short while, but > > he did not imagine that the system would see to it that very few > got > > access to the beneifits! > > > > > > I earnestly request the moderators to moderate parts of texts As > > the audio in TV is masked with a bleep - with an xxxxxx > > to prevent the most offensive parts of a message from being > > transmitted. Else they too will be guilty of perpetuating prejudice > > and thereby contributing to it. Freedom of speech is important, but > > we also have the responsibility of not allowing discourses to > > deteriorate below a level of minimum decency as this is a public > > forum. > > > > > > Cynthia Stephen > > > Independent Researcher and writer > > > Bangalore, India > > > > > >
