Ok.

I've finally also found out that each thread is set to go at 3 requests per
minute and my ramp up period is 20 seconds.  So; 3 requests per minute is
every 20s as well so perhaps they're clashing.

I've upped my ramp-up to 30s and we'll see if there's any difference
tonight.

It may be that i ought to run with say half the number of threads and double
the throughput?  I imagine that could smooth things out.  Perhaps even 1/4
the number of threads and 4x throughput etc..

I'll experiment further tomorrow.

Thanks!
Dan


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To: JMeter Users List <jmeter-user@jakarta.apache.org>, Dan
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Subject: Re: JMeter - arrival rate variations
Date: 13/11/07 16:31

> On 13/11/2007, Dan &lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt; wrote:
> &gt; Ok excellent i'm getting somewhere.
> &gt;
> &gt; I've found that the arrivial rate varys from 91 requests per second
to 110
> &gt; r/s and the low points are every 20s.
> &gt; We are using the constant throughput controller, so i guess that
could mean
> &gt; that prior to the low point those requests have been processed
quicker than
> &gt; normal for some reason. (?)
> 
> If the rate dropped below the target - e.g. if the server was slow to
> respond - then the CTC will decrease the delay to try to catch up;
> this will cause a temporary increase in the request rate.
> 
> &gt; I think i'll try running with multiple servers.  but i still suspect
this is
> &gt; something in the app or db layer.  Looking at cpu/memory/network
stats there
> &gt; doesnt appear to be much load on the test script server - but of
course that
> &gt; doesnt mean there isnt a limit somewhere!
> &gt; I have recently enabled the summary option, maybe i'll turn that off
again.
> &gt; we run up to about 3,000 threads in each test. ( solaris 64 bit VM )
> 
> The Summariser should be quite cheap to process.
> 
> &gt; Thanks,
> &gt; Dan
> &gt;
> &gt; --------- Original Message --------
> &gt; From: JMeter Users List &lt;jmeter-user@jakarta.apache.org&gt;
> &gt; To: JMeter Users List &lt;jmeter-user@jakarta.apache.org&gt;
> &gt; Subject: Re: JMeter
> &gt; Date: 13/11/07 00:23
> &gt;
> &gt; &gt; On 12/11/2007, Dan Keeley &amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&amp;gt;
wrote:
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Hi,
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; We are seeing some regular (20second apart) spikes in
our throughput.
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Do you mean that the throughput suddenly increases?
> &gt; &gt; Are the requests still successful?
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; We suspect these are from the application tier, but are
not 100%
> &gt; sure.  So i
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; just wanted to check whether jmeter will put through a
constant rate
> &gt; of
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; requests after the ramp-up period and whether or not it
could be
> &gt; responsible
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; for these peaks?
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; The rate at which JMeter generates requests depends on what
timers are
> &gt; &gt; present in the plan. Some combinations of random timers and
> &gt; &gt; controllers could cause spiky behaviour.
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; They are always 20 seconds regardless of high or medium
throughput so
> &gt; i
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; pretty much discount garbage collection.  Although i'm
learning it's
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; dangerous to ignore things such as this!
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; I agree, it seems a bit unlikely that it is GC.
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Have you checked the elapsed times?
> &gt; &gt; Do they show a pattern?
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Also check the gaps between request initiation.
> &gt; &gt; Are they consistent with the test plan?
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Fluctuations in elapsed times are more likely to be caused by
> &gt; &gt; resources external to the JMeter host.
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Fluctuations in request initiation could be caused by JMeter
probems
> &gt; &gt; (or possibly JMeter host problems) - but remember that the
Constant
> &gt; &gt; Throughput timer will adjust the gaps to try and maintain a
suitable
> &gt; &gt; rate.
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; You could try running the test plan against the JMeter mirror
server
> &gt; &gt; and see how that behaves.
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Reduce JMeter resource usage by following the advice here:
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt;
http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/best-practices.html#lean_mean
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; You can also try dividing the load between multiple independent
JMeter
> &gt; &gt; instances so that each one is only processing a low throughput.
Check
> &gt; &gt; that they all run OK independently, and then start them
together. If
> &gt; &gt; you then start seeing the problem, then it must be some resource
that
> &gt; &gt; is common to all the instances, e.g. the application or perhaps
the
> &gt; &gt; network.
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Check what the OS monitoring tools show on the different hosts.
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Thanks,
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Dan
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
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