On 13/11/2007, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok.
>
> I've finally also found out that each thread is set to go at 3 requests per
> minute and my ramp up period is 20 seconds.  So; 3 requests per minute is
> every 20s as well so perhaps they're clashing.
>

Perhaps try one of the other constant throughput options.

> I've upped my ramp-up to 30s and we'll see if there's any difference
> tonight.
>
> It may be that i ought to run with say half the number of threads and double
> the throughput?  I imagine that could smooth things out.  Perhaps even 1/4
> the number of threads and 4x throughput etc..
>
> I'll experiment further tomorrow.
>
> Thanks!
> Dan
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: JMeter Users List <jmeter-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> To: JMeter Users List <jmeter-user@jakarta.apache.org>, Dan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: JMeter - arrival rate variations
> Date: 13/11/07 16:31
>
> > On 13/11/2007, Dan &lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt; wrote:
> > &gt; Ok excellent i'm getting somewhere.
> > &gt;
> > &gt; I've found that the arrivial rate varys from 91 requests per second
> to 110
> > &gt; r/s and the low points are every 20s.
> > &gt; We are using the constant throughput controller, so i guess that
> could mean
> > &gt; that prior to the low point those requests have been processed
> quicker than
> > &gt; normal for some reason. (?)
> >
> > If the rate dropped below the target - e.g. if the server was slow to
> > respond - then the CTC will decrease the delay to try to catch up;
> > this will cause a temporary increase in the request rate.
> >
> > &gt; I think i'll try running with multiple servers.  but i still suspect
> this is
> > &gt; something in the app or db layer.  Looking at cpu/memory/network
> stats there
> > &gt; doesnt appear to be much load on the test script server - but of
> course that
> > &gt; doesnt mean there isnt a limit somewhere!
> > &gt; I have recently enabled the summary option, maybe i'll turn that off
> again.
> > &gt; we run up to about 3,000 threads in each test. ( solaris 64 bit VM )
> >
> > The Summariser should be quite cheap to process.
> >
> > &gt; Thanks,
> > &gt; Dan
> > &gt;
> > &gt; --------- Original Message --------
> > &gt; From: JMeter Users List &lt;jmeter-user@jakarta.apache.org&gt;
> > &gt; To: JMeter Users List &lt;jmeter-user@jakarta.apache.org&gt;
> > &gt; Subject: Re: JMeter
> > &gt; Date: 13/11/07 00:23
> > &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; On 12/11/2007, Dan Keeley &amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&amp;gt;
> wrote:
> > &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Hi,
> > &gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; We are seeing some regular (20second apart) spikes in
> our throughput.
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; Do you mean that the throughput suddenly increases?
> > &gt; &gt; Are the requests still successful?
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; We suspect these are from the application tier, but are
> not 100%
> > &gt; sure.  So i
> > &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; just wanted to check whether jmeter will put through a
> constant rate
> > &gt; of
> > &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; requests after the ramp-up period and whether or not it
> could be
> > &gt; responsible
> > &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; for these peaks?
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; The rate at which JMeter generates requests depends on what
> timers are
> > &gt; &gt; present in the plan. Some combinations of random timers and
> > &gt; &gt; controllers could cause spiky behaviour.
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; They are always 20 seconds regardless of high or medium
> throughput so
> > &gt; i
> > &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; pretty much discount garbage collection.  Although i'm
> learning it's
> > &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; dangerous to ignore things such as this!
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; I agree, it seems a bit unlikely that it is GC.
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; Have you checked the elapsed times?
> > &gt; &gt; Do they show a pattern?
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; Also check the gaps between request initiation.
> > &gt; &gt; Are they consistent with the test plan?
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; Fluctuations in elapsed times are more likely to be caused by
> > &gt; &gt; resources external to the JMeter host.
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; Fluctuations in request initiation could be caused by JMeter
> probems
> > &gt; &gt; (or possibly JMeter host problems) - but remember that the
> Constant
> > &gt; &gt; Throughput timer will adjust the gaps to try and maintain a
> suitable
> > &gt; &gt; rate.
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; You could try running the test plan against the JMeter mirror
> server
> > &gt; &gt; and see how that behaves.
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; Reduce JMeter resource usage by following the advice here:
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt;
> http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/best-practices.html#lean_mean
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; You can also try dividing the load between multiple independent
> JMeter
> > &gt; &gt; instances so that each one is only processing a low throughput.
> Check
> > &gt; &gt; that they all run OK independently, and then start them
> together. If
> > &gt; &gt; you then start seeing the problem, then it must be some resource
> that
> > &gt; &gt; is common to all the instances, e.g. the application or perhaps
> the
> > &gt; &gt; network.
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; Check what the OS monitoring tools show on the different hosts.
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Thanks,
> > &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Dan
> > &gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &amp;gt;
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