Forget it. Here's the deal. It turns out that an applet can pop up a "menu" that consists of an image covering the ENTIRE SCREEN. Or a set of "menus" that collectively cover the entire screen. Obviously, this is a security risk, as the screen could spoof any login system. That's the issue. I've seen a demonstration of this, and it's pretty impressive.
Take a look at what I just put up at http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm If you don't use Java 1.6.0_10, the menuing will be normal -- but check out the console anyway. Another possibility perhaps is a top menu on the applet itself. Might slightly change the window size. But I wouldn't want to make that required, and it might mess with page formatting. Let's experiment a bit before we make any final decisions. I would like to have this done by 11.6. Jonathan Gutow wrote: >I'm with Rolf on this. I think we should complain to Sun on this. >The pop-up menu is much better than other options, I can think of. I >am unclear why it is considered a security issue. If there are >things that the user should not be able to do in the applet menu, >then we the applet programmers have made a mistake. I do not think >this is an appropriate place for the JavaVM to make decisions. > >Some other things I can think of rather than bringing up the whole >console: >1) bring up a listbox window where the items substitute for the menu >items. This would look more like a menu to people. The problem with >this is that we would have to duplicate code and behavior that is >already built into the Java menu system. >2) bring up a window with just a menu bar(possibly even a single menu >in it). This could then behave just like our pop up menu. I sort of >like the idea that it wouldn't go away completely without my deciding >to dispose of it. It then becomes like a combination pop-up and >palette. > >Jonathan >On Aug 6, 2008, at 7:26 PM, Bob Hanson wrote: > > > >>I think I have a fix for the prospect that unsigned applets can no >>longer (or soon to be no longer) able to pop up a menu. My plan: >> >>1) Add a menu bar to the console. >>2) pop up the console on right-click of the mouse. >> >>A bonus is that we can then have a top-level help menu item that >>really >>provides help. >> >>Comments? Suggestions? >> >>Bob >> >>-- >>Robert M. Hanson >>Professor of Chemistry >>St. Olaf College >>Northfield, MN >>http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr >> >> >>If nature does not answer first what we want, >>it is better to take what answer we get. >> >>-- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 >> >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>--- >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>challenge >>Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win >>great prizes >>Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in >>the world >>http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>_______________________________________________ >>Jmol-developers mailing list >>[email protected] >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers >> >> > > Dr. Jonathan H. Gutow >Chemistry Department [EMAIL PROTECTED] >UW-Oshkosh Office:920-424-1326 >800 Algoma Boulevard FAX:920-424-2042 >Oshkosh, WI 54901 > http://www.uwosh.edu/faculty_staff/gutow/ > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >_______________________________________________ >Jmol-developers mailing list >[email protected] >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers > > -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College Northfield, MN http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Jmol-developers mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers
