Joel, With regards to chime not showing up in Firefox, I believe the chime installer just doesn't recognize Firefox as a browser. I think if you installed a version of netscape and downloaded chime then you can go to the netscape plugins folder and copy the chime plugin files (chime26.isu, chime.html, npchime.dll, NPCHIME.ZIP) from the netscape plugin folder to the Mozilla Firefox plugin folder, chime then works in Firefox.
(It might work to just copy the files from the IE plugins folder, but I don't know for sure if the files are the same even though they carry the same name. Perhaps someone else on this list knows the answer to that). Robley ************************************************************* Robley J. Light Professor Emeritus, Chemistry and Biochemistry Department of Chemistry Phone: (850) 644-3844 and Biochemistry Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Florida State University Fax: (850) 644-8281 Tallahassee, FL 32306-4390 Home Page: http://www.chem.fsu.edu/editors/rlight > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miguel > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 5:37 AM > To: Joel Kowit > Cc: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Jmol-users] Re: Jmol novice question > > > I have used RasMol and Chime for several years, and just downloaded > > Jmol yesterday. A have a few naive questions I wonder if you could > > help me with. > > Joel, > > You should join the jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailing list. > > Do not be afraid to post even *simple* questions ... > > > 1) "Where is it?" I know it's a browser plug in, but it > doesn't show > > up in my IE plugins folder or my Mozilla Firefox plugin folder. > > The Jmol Applet is an applet, not a plugin. It must live on > the web server. It automatically gets downloaded when a user > visits the web page. > > For example, when someone visits www.jmol.org the Jmol Applet > automatically gets downloaded/executed on their machine. The > only browser requirement is that Java be installed. > > As an end-user, you do not need to explicitly download the > Jmol Applet unless you are setting up a web site. > > > 2) I hear it's a stand alone program, but can it be opened > like RasMol > > Yes, the Jmol application is a stand-alone Java program that > can be run from the command-line ... or an icon can be set up > to launch it. > > > (& > > if so, from where - there's no icon and there's no jmol.* > on searching > > for files), > > There is currently no nice/fancy installation of the Jmol application. > > It is a Java application and the application is named > Jmol.jar ... located in the root of the file that you > downloaded/unzipped. > > For running on Windows there is a jmol.bat file there. > For running on MacOSX/Linux/Unix there is a shell file named jmol > > On Windows: > c:\> cd \Jmol > c:\Jmol\> jmol samples\xyz\caffeine.xyz > > On MacOSX/Linux/Unix > $ cd /path/to/jmol > $ ./jmol samples/xyz/caffeine.xyz > > If you want an icon, then post a question to the mailing list > and someone will tell you how to do it ... I don't know how. > > > or only used "invisibly" with a browser, as with Chime. > Nope > > > 3) After I downloaded Jmol, when I used Mozilla Firefox to go to a > > Chime Tutorial I've used before, the Chime images were missing and > > replaced by a message to download the plug in. > > This had nothing to do with Jmol. > Jmol does not replace Chime on the client. > Rather, the person who set up the web site needs to modify > their web site to serve/send/use the JmolApplet. > > > Clicking on the icon, "no plugins were found." (IE works). > I went to > > MDL.com and downloaded Chime (again) but Chime still > doesn't show up > > as a Firefox plugin, nor does Jmol. > > Correct > > > I would appreciate any help to get me to square one. Thanks. > > You can use the Jmol application as an alternative to RasMol > > You should use the JmolApplet directly *only* in the case > where you are setting up a web site. > > As a casual end-user of Jmol, you do not need to do anything > ... the JmolApplet will get automagically downloaded when you > visit a web site that has been prepared with Jmol. > > > > Miguel > > ----- > Open Source Molecular Visualization > www.jmol.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & > EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development > Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * > Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process > Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Jmol-users mailing list > Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users > ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf _______________________________________________ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
