Reichsman Frieda wrote:

>Thanks Bob. If I understand correctly, this means that Jmol is  
>calculating the surface MEP based on the values in the file, which do  
>not represent absolute MEP but rather, are partial charges. And that  
>means that when Jmol calculates the surface MEP for only part of the  
>amino acid (the side chain), the absence of the 'backbone' atoms  
>greatly influences the calculation of the potential over the side  
>chain, yes? And so the absence of those atoms is creating the effect  
>I'm seeing of diminishing the potential on the charged side chain, and  
>magnifying it a bit on the uncharged side chain?
>  
>

That could be.

>This leads to another question, would it be possible to show a partial  
>surface? That is, 'build' the surface for the entire amino acid, but  
>only display only the surface over the side chain. I imagine this  
>would be a feature request, would it be feasible to do this?
>
>  
>
I think you want

isosurface select {xxxx} molecular map select {*} mep

That is, when you run the mep, you want to indicate that for THAT part 
of the calculation, you want all atoms selected. I hadn't realized 
myself that two selects work here -- I suppose it could be useful. Or not.

Bob


>Frieda
>
>
>On Aug 5, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Bob Hanson wrote:
>
>  
>
>> if you are mapping MEP data, remember that a MEP calculation is
>>being done that converts charge on atoms to potential at some distance
>>(on the surface) from a bunch of atoms, collectively. This value falls
>>off with distance. So that's probably why your numbers are low. They
>>aren't just charges, and really they are just approximations of  
>>electron
>>potential, as well. If you want to map the charges themselves, you  
>>will
>>need to use "map property partialcharge". But that will look somewhat
>>blotchy, I suspsect.
>>
>>I'm sure you have the color range/absolute business correct.
>>    
>>
>
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>>Bob
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Am I misunderstanding what "color range/absolute x.xxx y.yyy" should
>>>be doing? Is there a way to get the coloring for "color range all"  
>>>but
>>>only show the surface for the side chains?
>>>
>>>Frieda
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