David,

I have also noted the lack of iPad touch response with the Jmol menu, which can 
also be accessed with the menu command. Since I'm primarily interested in 
"buttonizing" menu commands, this has not been a big problem for me, but I can 
understand that this capability would be a nice feature.

I will mention this about my experience with Jmol and the iPad. While you are 
pretty much restricted to touch as click and drag, there is one other handle. 
Jmol script can be used to bind double click to Jmol scripts. This opens up a 
total of three iPad controls of Jmol - touch, double touch, and drag. I have 
yet to encounter a complex Jmol iPad operation that I could not implement with 
these controls. For example, on the VMK:

http://chemagic.com/JSmolVMK2.htm

see how double tap is used to circumvent the use of key-press moderated model 
drag - move button on VMK control screen.

Otis

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> On Jan 25, 2015, at 11:18 AM, David Leader <david.lea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I wrote on another thread
> 
>> 
>> However...
>> ...I have another question about JSmol since testing it on all sorts
>> of platforms. On the iPad (and other tablet platforms) there is no
>> such thing as hover or mouse-over. OK, one has to live with that for
>> mouse-over an atom in the structure, but it breaks the JSmol menu. Any
>> plans to address that?
> 
> 
> [Not really a good idea to change the focus of a thread this way]
> 
> Sorry,  I've changed the subject to start a new thread.
> 
>> What has hover to do with the mouse menu? But the menu on smaller platforms
>> can be a problem because it is not in the style of the device, and it tends
>> to run over.
>> Clicking on the JSmol logo gets you the menu, but perhaps in a bad
>> location.
> 
> OK, my experience with the JSmol mouse menu is as  follows:
> 
> On the desktop:
> 1.  Uou click on the JSmol text and get a drop-down menu with
> triangles indicating submenus.
> 2. As your mouse goes over an item, the background changes and the
> submenu appears.
> 3. Finally when you get a menu with no submenus you click on it to
> select the choice indicated.
> 
> On the iPad (running iOS 8):
> 1. You tap on the the JSmol text and get the same drop-down menu as before.
> 2. There is no step 2. If you tap on a menu item, all that happens is
> the menu shifts to the side of the screen, but any amount of tapping
> fails to produce the submenus.
> 
> I do not know how html/css/js menus work. However from my own
> experiments with hover and mouseover on different mobile platforms I
> suspect that the appearance of the submenu is coded as a css hover
> response. If it were a mouseover event it would respond to a tap. Only
> on Windows Mobile is there any response to hover, and that is
> transient while you hold your finger down.
> 
> If I am correct about hover, then I do not see how the JSmenu can work
> on mobile devices as coded at present (and it doesn't seem to in my
> hands). Hence my question.
> 
> David
> 
> PS. I previously mounted a page where you can test the response of
> mobile devices to hover, mouseover and mouseclick at
> http://www.davidleader.net/mobiledemo.html .
> 
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