On 3/25/07, Al-Faisal El-Dajani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I can't say i agree with either of you guys, and ammar the issue is not me
> complaining about things getting out of hand. This lecture was designed for
> people who do not know about SVN. I was extremely surprised to see either of
> you guys attend, because you are way above this lecture's level.


I attend because Open Source is not about technology only. The social aspect
is as important & to support whoever is giving a lecture.

And, yes the whole concept of the community is sharing knowledge and
> answering each others questions, but you need to take into consideration
> that different people react and conceive thoughts in different ways. You
> seriously can't throw the entire manual at everybody in sight and hope they
> would become interested enough to pursue the matter.


The thing is that, e.g. Abdallah had some questions, and me and Ala'a
answered him. I don't see how that would hurt others.

Also, don't forget that some people would feel embarrased or ashamed of
> asking newbie questions, when everybody else seems to be talking
> astrophysics. They would not ask questions that they need to fully
> understand the lecture, and hence they are actually getting harmed from this
> community process.


If somebody is ashamed, honestly, that is their problem. Even the best
programmers in the world ask newbie questions when they enter a new
field/project. This is how everybody learns.

The reason i voiced my opinion here is because when i left the lecture room,
> the only thought in my mind was that i spent the last 5 days preparing, and
> with your experience you managed to transform it from a basic introdcution
> of what is svn, into a full fledged battle of svn vs cvs. (not so
> melodramatic, but you get the idea). The only thought in my mind was that i
> would never attempt to give another lecture,


I don't see a reason for this. I feel guilty now. All of us are very
thankful to your efforts, and I told everybody I know about this lecture.
And seriously, you need to reconsider your decision.

because no matter what i do, no matter how much i prepare, chances are you
> know more, and the same thing will happen all over again.


Does that mean that a person giving a lecture should know about the topic
more than everybody else? this is a false assumption

I really must emphasis that i did not take it personally, and i know that
> you were just trying to broaden the scope, but if i who REALLy did not take
> it personally is pissed about the lecture so much, what about the other guy
> who tries to give a lecture?


What's the big issue about people discussing things that are at least
contained in the topic of the lecture being presented.

Are we going to attend the lecture that somebody gives about basic bash
> commands, and instead of sticking to ls, cd, and mv, going to throw in
> background processing, process management, and signal processing in the
> spirit of community sharing?


Honestly, and not for the sake of arguing, I don't see why not.

It's like abdalla said, we don't want to give lectures that everybody wants
> to attend all the time. Focused groups talking about specific matters is far
> more effecient.


I agree

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