I'm sold... just tell me good time before hand so that I can request the day off
2008/1/23 Loai Farajallah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > السلام عليكم > الإخوة الكرام, أعتقد أننا نبتعد قليلا ً عن جوهر الموضوع, وهو الحرية, حرية > البرمجيات "المصادر المفتوحة" وهذا ما يجب أن نركز عليه ومنه ندخل لموضوع الفرق > بين ويندوز واحتكار ميكروسوفت وحرية البرمجيات من ضمنها لينكس. > لأن هذا أولى من الجدل حول إمكانيات لينكس إقناع الناس الذين تشربوا دعايات > ميكروسوفت > بتنزيل نظام لمدة أسبوع ثم يقومون -بعد أن يستصعبوا منهو لا يعرفوا كيف > يشغلون عليه برامجهم القديمة- يقومون بعد ذلك بإزالته من على الجهاز بعد سب > الذي كان السبب في تنزيله على الجهاز بل واختراعه! > > السلام عليكم > لؤي فرج الله > > > On 23/01/2008, Nasim Al-Tamimi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Lets see > > 1st of all , nasa always used Apple , and they switched to Red Hat Linux > > Lately in parallel: > > http://www.nas.nasa.gov/News/Archive/2007/08_22_07.html > > > > I guess what we need to do in a university is a bit less than an > > installation fest, it should be a series of conceptual lectures as well as > > look, feel, and try your self sessions. > > & not to forget the free distributions , and an installation seminar. > > > > it would be a hit if we do this in an ordinary day at uni, this will > > assure a much more audience than a saturday (according to previous > > experience, the percentage was 250:25 ) > > > > it would be nice if we do one such event in JUST, and another in > > Yarmouk,,,, maybe we can do both same time, a bunch of people to the right, > > others to the left :) just a thought > > my ta3reeftein out there :P > > > > > > > > On Jan 23, 2008 5:54 AM, Abdallah < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Wassalam Alaikum wr wb > > > > > > On Jan 22, 2008 10:29 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > As'salamu Alaikom wr wb. > > > > > > > > Guys.. I know I might sound like a brat here but I just have a > > > > suggestion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. actually brats are the ones who whine and never ask for anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about arranging a Linux conference in a place like Yarmouk > > > > University, for example, or at any other place you prefer in Irbid? > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we can arrange for something giving the right setup. > > > > > > We will need: > > > > > > - A place for lecture or presenmtation > > > - A local team (1 person minimum) to handle booking place, getting > > > permissions, hand out flyers, post announcements on campus, chair the > > > session, present the speaker, setup projectors... > > > > > > - A bunch of Jolugers will make the trip if it is on a non work day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reason for this is that I'm getting really pissed off watching > > > > how > > > > these people here idolize Microsoft as if it was the Lord of > > > > technology and that nobody can even be close to them in strength and > > > > might and quality..!! >< > > > > > > > > Please guys, the people here don't even know what Linux is! > > > > One day I was talking to a friend and I told him I'm considering > > > > switching from Windows to Linux, and the first expression he made > > > > was > > > > "Why? You wanna upload shells to you domain?", > > > > > > > > > I don't understand what that means. > > > > > > > > > > > > > and of course, this is > > > > the most stupid thing I've ever heard. Worse, when we started > > > > arguing > > > > about which is better, he said " Do not compare something made by a > > > > bunch of "schoolboys" (meaning Linux) to something that was made by > > > > professionals who spent their whole lives writing code and > > > > developing > > > > operating systems" > > > > > > > > > > > > OK. Here is the mistake that many are falling into. > > > > > > > > > All definitions of Linux start with: Linux is a UNIX like OS. > > > > > > You have all that great heritage built into it with the twist of GNU > > > and Open Source added in in the last 20 years or so. > > > > > > I started using Linux partly because it looked exactly like the Sun OS > > > account at my university in early nineties. I coveted that root access so > > > much too. > > > > > > I was able to use the exact facilities like, pine, lynx, emacs, vi, > > > cc, mail, netscape, mosaic, x window, and such. Taking over the wold was > > > a > > > much later idea. > > > > > > Cutting edge technologies and innovations were not showing on the > > > lesser platforms. Web browsers like Netscape and Mosaic existed on UNIX > > > and > > > UNIX like OSs first and slowly appeared on others because their underlying > > > structure was not made with multitasking in mind. > > > > > > Unix was a multiuser and multitasking design right from the start. > > > Early seventies. Today Linux as a UNIX like OS is running everything from > > > your cell phone to supper computers running the phone company itself. > > > Your > > > friend, if he has an gram of intelligence, must realize that an OS > > > booting > > > on such a plethora of hardware is not the result of a bunch of kids > > > picking > > > their noses. Can he imagine being able to run his favorite OS on Apple > > > hardware? Sun hardware? IBM hardware? Amiga? and the list goes on and > > > on........ > > > > > > It is a pity that a computer science student in a Jordanian university > > > is not exposed to anything but PC platform. Professors of such > > > institutions must be ashamed of themselves. They are cheating their > > > students > > > because they are very lazy to say the least. > > > > > > I think we should add some history lessons to our web site. (note to > > > self) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then he claimed that even NASA uses Microsoft, > > > > which I have no single idea where he brought that information from, > > > > but anyhow... > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are no Microsoft products anywhere in mission critical system > > > any where in organizations like NASA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So please people, take your time to think it through, but please do > > > > your best to accept this suggestion. > > > > > > > > > OK. ok.. You twisted our arm. We accept. :D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You just accept it and leave the "negotiation with the principals" > > > > part to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kewl. We await your plan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for everything. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > You are very welcome. > > > > > > > > > Wassalam Alaikum wr wb > > > > > > Abdallah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Nasim Al-Tamimi > > > > Software Developer > > > > Jordan: +962788787064 > > URL: www.nasimjo.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > -- Al-Faisal El-Dajani Phone: +962-7-79737050 P.O Box: 140056 11814 Amman, Jordan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jolug" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Jolug?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
