dear ashara:

I am absolutely
>heartsick that
>some people I really care for did not feel they could attend the
>fest because
>of you, Marcel.

i didn't tell you, but i was so close to not coming to this, my fourth
nejonifest, ashara...  heather will vouch.  the number one reason was
because marcel was attending...

i couldn't believe that after all the bitter abuse marcel has dripped on
jonilisters this year, he was still welcome at a gathering...  i think that
was a mistake.

i know you weren't as close to the list this year, maybe havn't seen the
horrible exchanges that marcel's fucking awful behaviour has caused...  i
hope you don't know about his consistent private posting of abusive emails
to women on this list, women who have said quite publicly "marcel, if you
can't say it in public, don't post to me".

marcel is a cyber-rapist.  his private emails to women who've disagreed with
him publicly have been beyond acceptable.  harrasive.  his private posts are
hostile acts, just as you've seen in the message that debra forwarded.  i'm
proud that i managed to avoid him for a couple of days, ashamed that i shook
hands with him when he departed jonifest, glad i washed my hand afterward
and appalled that this person still pays no price for his actions.  his poor
benighted wife, who had to wonder why so many festers avoided her (who wants
to say 'your husband's an asshole'?) had a worse time of it.

MARCEL, DON'T POST PRIVATELY IN RESPONSE TO THIS.  this probably won't work
with marcel.  chris marshall is going to deal with the guidelines of
marcel's isp.  god bless chris...



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it shouldn't be this difficult, being a member of jmdl.com.  no one has ever
done more to fuck up this community than marcel d'este

patrick

np - silence


>
>I have never had anything but positive interactions with you, and
>that is the
>side I know from a personal standpoint. However, I cannot sit back and say
>that your continue rude and insulting posts to others don't bother
>me. They
>do. Very, very much. I have no room in my understanding why someone who is
>*able* to be kind chooses not to. It *is* a choice. For whatever
>reason, you
>have chosen to be very civil and nice to me. Of course, we will not always
>agree with each other here, but I believe every single person on this list
>deserves respect and kindness. PLEASE Marcel, stop the insulting and nasty
>remarks. Frankly, it doesn't accomplish anything except to make *you* look
>bad. I invite you to let the list see the side I have seen of you, and let
>the "insulting side" go.
>
>In the spirit of peace,
>Ashara

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