Thanks Kakki.  You are right .... degrees of separation can be surprising.
Money does attract strange bedfellows though.

Heather

At 07:23 PM 10/4/01 -0700, Kakki wrote:
>This article was not from The Wall Street Journal but rather from Judicial
>Watch, which tends to be a right-wing "watchdog" group which has filed many
>suits against Clinton, among others in the past few years.  Please read
>carefully the actual article from the Wall Street Journal Online which I've
>posted below because you can only get it now by being a subscriber.  Using
>the logic of Judical Watch, probably most of us here could be somehow
>construed as supporters of the Bin Laden family, whether it be through the
>companies we work for or the financial firms connected to our retirement and
>bak accounts, etc.  Here is the original article from the WSJ.  Kakki
>
>Bin Laden Family Could Profit From a Jump
>In Defense Spending Due to Ties to U.S. Bank
>By DANIEL GOLDEN, JAMES BANDLER and MARCUS WALKER
>Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
>
>
>If the U.S. boosts defense spending in its quest to stop Osama bin Laden's
>alleged terrorist activities, there may be one unexpected beneficiary: Mr.
>bin Laden's family.
>
>Among its far-flung business interests, the well-heeled Saudi Arabian
>clan -- which says it is estranged from Osama -- is an investor in a fund
>established by Carlyle Group, a well-connected Washington merchant bank
>specializing in buyouts of defense and aerospace companies.
>
>Through this investment and its ties to Saudi royalty, the bin Laden family
>has become acquainted with some of the biggest names in the Republican
>Party. In recent years, former President Bush, ex-Secretary of State James
>Baker and ex-Secretary of Defense Frank Carlucci have made the pilgrimage to
>the bin Laden family's headquarters in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Mr. Bush makes
>speeches on behalf of Carlyle Group and is senior adviser to its Asian
>Partners fund, while Mr. Baker is its senior counselor. Mr. Carlucci is the
>group's chairman.
>
>Osama is one of more than 50 children of Mohammed bin Laden, who built the
>family's $5 billion business, Saudi Binladin Group, largely with
>construction contracts from the Saudi government. Osama worked briefly in
>the business and is believed to have inherited as much as $50 million from
>his father in cash and stock, although he doesn't have access to the shares,
>a family spokesman says. Because his Saudi citizenship was revoked in 1994,
>Mr. bin Laden is ineligible to own assets in the kingdom, the spokesman
>added.
>
>The bin Laden family has long disavowed Osama, and has cooperated fully with
>several federal investigations into his activities. The family business,
>headed by Osama's half-brother Bakr, epitomizes the U.S.-Saudi alliance that
>the suspected terrorist often rails against. After the 1996 truck bombing in
>Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, that killed 19 U.S. servicemen, Saudi Binladin Group
>built military barracks and airfields for U.S. troops.
>
>But the Federal Bureau of Investigation has issued subpoenas to banks used
>by the bin Laden family seeking records of family dealings, a person
>familiar with the matter said. This person said the subpoenas weren't an
>indication the FBI had found any suspicious behavior by the family. A family
>spokesman said he had no knowledge of the subpoenas but that the family
>welcomes them and has nothing to hide.
>
>People familiar with the family's finances say the bin Ladens do much of
>their banking with National Commercial Bank in Saudi Arabia and with the
>London branch of Deutsche Bank AG. They also use Citigroup Inc. and ABN
>Amro, the people said.
>
>"If there were ever any company closely connected to the U.S. and its
>presence in Saudi Arabia, it's the Saudi Binladin Group," says Charles
>Freeman, president of the Middle East Policy Council, a Washington nonprofit
>concern that receives tens of thousands of dollars a year from the bin Laden
>family. "They're the establishment that Osama's trying to overthrow."
>
>Mr. Freeman, who served as U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia during the Gulf
>War, says he has spoken to two of Osama's brothers since hijacked airplanes
>rammed the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on Sept. 11. They told him,
>he says, that the FBI has been "remarkably sensitive, tactful and
>protective" of the family during the current crisis, recognizing its
>longstanding friendship with the U.S.
>
>A Carlyle executive said the bin Laden family committed $2 million through a
>London investment arm in 1995 in Carlyle Partners II Fund, which raised $1.3
>billion overall. The fund has purchased several aerospace companies among 29
>deals. So far, the family has received $1.3 million back in completed
>investments and should ultimately realize a 40% annualized rate of return,
>the Carlyle executive said.
>
>But a foreign financier with ties to the bin Laden family says the family's
>overall investment with Carlyle is considerably larger. He called the $2
>million merely an initial contribution. "It's like plowing a field," this
>person said. "You seed it once. You plow it, and then you reseed it again."
>
>The Carlyle executive added that he would think twice before accepting any
>future investments by the bin Ladens. "The situation's changed now," he
>said. "I don't want to spend my life talking to reporters."
>
>A U.S. inquiry into bin Laden family business dealings could brush against
>some big names associated with the U.S. government. Former President Bush
>said through his chief of staff, Jean Becker, that he recalled only one
>meeting with the bin Laden family, which took place in November1998. Ms.
>Becker confirmed that there was a second meeting in January 2000, after
>being read the ex-president's subsequent thank-you note. "President Bush
>does not have a relationship with the bin Laden family," says Ms. Becker.
>"He's met them twice."
>
>Mr. Baker visited the bin Laden family in both 1998 and 1999, according to
>people close to the family. In the second trip, he traveled on a family
>plane. Mr. Baker declined comment, as did Mr. Carlucci, a past chairman of
>Nortel Networks Corp., which has partnered with Saudi Binladin Group on
>telecommunications ventures.
>
>Former President Carter met with 10 of Osama's brothers early in 2000 on a
>fund-raising trip for the Carter Center in Atlanta. According to John
>Hardman, executive director of the center, the brothers told Mr. Carter that
>Osama was completely removed from the family. After Mr. Carter and his wife
>followed up with breakfast with Bakr bin Laden in New York in September
>2000, the bin Laden family gave $200,000 to the center. "We don't have any
>reason to think there's a connection" between Osama and the rest of the
>family, Mr. Hardman says.
>
>During the past several years, the family's close ties to the Saudi royal
>family prompted executives and staff from closely held New York publisher
>Forbes Inc. to make two trips to the family headquarters, according to
>Forbes Chairman Caspar Weinberger, a former U.S. secretary of defense in the
>Reagan administration. "We would call on them to get their view of the
>country and what would be of interest to investors."
>
>Mr. Weinberger said no trips to Saudi Arabia were planned. "If we went," he
>said, "we may or may not call upon them. I don't think the sins of the son
>should be visited on the father or the brother and the cousins and the
>aunts."
>
>There is no indication President George W. Bush has met any of the bin
>Ladens, but he was indirectly linked to one of them two decades ago. His
>longtime friend James W. Bath, who met Mr. Bush when they were both pilots
>in the Air National Guard, acted as a Texas business representative for
>Osama's older brother, Salem bin Laden, from 1976 to 1988, when Salem died
>in a plane crash. Mr. Bath brought real-estate acquisitions and other deals
>to Salem bin Laden, an ebullient man who headed the family construction
>business. Mr. Bath generally received a 5% interest as his fee, and was
>sometimes listed as a trustee in related corporate documents. Mr. Bath
>acknowledged that during the same period he invested $50,000 in two funds
>controlled by Mr. Bush but said that stake was unrelated to his dealings
>with Mr. bin Laden.
>
>Among the properties that Salem bin Laden bought on Mr. Bath's
>recommendation was the Houston Gulf Airport, a lightly used airfield in
>League City, Texas, 25 miles east of Houston. But Mr. bin Laden's hope that
>it would develop a major overflow airport for Houston never materialized, in
>part due to concern over wetlands. Ever since his death, his estate has
>sought to sell the airfield -- without success. Today, it is still on the
>market.
>
>Write to Daniel Golden at [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Bandler at
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and Marcus Walker at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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