A couple of points on a dreary, rainy afternoon in the Midwest of the
U.S.A.

Kakki wrote, in response to the article Kate Bennett posted:

"I would ask first if the professor is a Marxist, and if he is not I
would
refer him to this article and then ask him which side he wants to live
under."

To which I reply: WHOA!!!  Are you saying that one has to be, or is
likely to be, a Marxist to criticize American foreign policy in the way
that the author of the article has?  If so, I must respectfully but
strenuously disagree.  While I have never purported to be anything other
than a good old-fashioned, died-in-the-wool liberal, I am certainly no
Marxist, economically or politically. However, I agree with a good many
of the professor's points.

My favorite is probably, "Stay away from the ridiculous claims that we
are hated because we respect individual liberties. In the Muslim world,
over
and over again, we consistently HAVE NOT respected individual liberties
but
rather supported tin-pot dictators."  I think that this is,
unfortunately, all too true, especially in Latin America, as well as in
the Middle East.  But, as that much-maligned Robert Fisk article from a
while back pointed out (correctly, I thought), when we in the U.S. speak
glowingly of "individual liberties," we're really talking about the
liberties of *American citizens,* and not those of the nationals of
other countries who may well make it possible, directly and indirectly,
for us to maintain our American lifestyles.   And, too often, we're
referring to the liberties and lifestyles of only *some* American
citizens, at that.

Kate Bennett then wrote in response:

"All of this to say that what concerns me the most, in this war against
terrorism, is that it is being reduced to some kind of Batman type of
scenario of good vs evil. It is far more complex than that. And that
kind of
good vs. evil rhetoric is off putting to me. I know I am not the only
one
that feels that way."

Kate, this has worried me greatly, too.  I am not a pacifist.  I do
believe firmly in our country's right to defend itself in light of the
attacks of September 11, although, as far I'm concerned, the jury is
still out on the efficacy of military action against this amorphous,
multi-national new enemy, organized terrorism.  Yet when President Bush
stated in his speech of September 20 or so that the Taliban hates us
because of "what they see in these two chambers"  (i.e., a democratic
government), and then proceeded to produce a laundry list of the
curtailment of individual liberties in Afghanistan, I couldn't help but
wonder.  How is "they hate us because of our devotion to the great
principles of democracy" conceptually different, in any way, from "they
hate us for our devotion to the tenets of holy Islam?"  

Both statements laud the speaker's group for something recognized by the
intended audience as a good, and both demonize the Other.  Both
statements appear designed, at least in part, to gear up those audiences
for a long, protracted fight.  Tellingly, however, both neglect to
mention the down-and-dirty, rough-and-tumble political and economic
realities that may have contributed far more to this conflict than
either side's devotion to its respective Greater Good.

Finally, Kate wrote:

"I do believe that in order to "fight" terrorism we need to understand
why it
exists. I don't mean trying to understand Osama, but trying to
understand
why he appeals to his followers. And why others who do not support his
terrorist acts still relate to him. What are the conditions that have
created this situation. And what are the conditions that could alleviate
this for future generations?"

I agree completely.  Let's be united, and let's protect our nation from
this horrifying threat in the best, most efficient way we can.  But
while we're doing so, let's remember that it is NOT unpatriotic to admit
that our country has sometimes done wrong.  After all, it is composed of
and led by men and women who, while they may have a great many admirable
attributes, are also only flawed human beings. Nor is it unpatriotic to
consider that, although there can be absolutely no justification raised
for the terrible, violent acts of September 11, 2001, the question of
justification for the *anger* that fueled those acts is much, much more
complicated.

Who was it who said, "those who do not master the lessons of history are
doomed to repeat it?"  I fervently hope that we will not be so doomed.

Off my soapbox--back to my listening corner.

Mary P.,
Madison.

P.S.  The view outside my window is starting to look positively
Hejira-like.

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