>>No doubt there has been a slant coming from the U.S. government and certain media enablers for years<< >>I don't read everything written by them so I can't say that everything is propaganda. But I've seen outright lies propagated by them many times. <<
Let me see if I have this clear. Lies from the government is 'a slant' and lies from marxist groups are 'outright lies' Mike PS I don't agree with you about the Guardian, or with Debra's comment ('The Guardian is a left-wing paper and doesn't claim to give an objective view') but I'll wait for comments by other readers before commenting myself.