Since discussion has been cast so often in here as "conservatives"
versus "others" I thought the perspective of William Safire would be
interesting.  Safire, former Nixon administration member and columnist,
is a Barry Goldwater/Ronald Reagan conservator true believer.  I decided
to post this in honor of JMDLer Ric.

http://www.commondreams.org/views01/1115-08.htm

Published on Thursday, November 15, 2001 in the New York Times
>From the Right
Seizing Dictatorial Power
by William Safire

WASHINGTON -- Misadvised by a frustrated and panic-stricken attorney
general, a president of the United States has just assumed what amounts
to dictatorial power to jail or execute aliens. Intimidated by
terrorists and inflamed by a passion for rough justice, we are letting
George W. Bush get away with the replacement of the American rule of law
with military kangaroo courts.

In his infamous emergency order, Bush admits to dismissing "the
principles of law and the rules of evidence" that undergird America's
system of justice. He seizes the power to circumvent the courts and set
up his own drumhead tribunals  panels of officers who will sit in
judgment of non-citizens who the president need only claim "reason to
believe" are members of terrorist organizations.

Not content with his previous decision to permit police to eavesdrop on
a suspect's conversations with an attorney, Bush now strips the alien
accused of even the limited rights afforded by a court-martial.

His kangaroo court can conceal evidence by citing national security,
make up its own rules, find a defendant guilty even if a third of the
officers disagree, and execute the alien with no review by any civilian
court.

No longer does the judicial branch and an independent jury stand between
the government and the accused.  In lieu of those checks and balances
central to our legal system, non-citizens face an executive that is now
investigator, prosecutor, judge, jury and jailer or executioner. In an
Orwellian twist, Bush's order calls this Soviet-style abomination "a
full and fair trial."

On what legal meat does this our Caesar feed? One precedent the White
House cites is a military court after Lincoln's assassination. (During
the Civil War, Lincoln suspended habeas corpus; does our war on terror
require illegal imprisonment next?) Another is a military court's
hanging, approved by the Supreme Court, of German saboteurs landed by
submarine in World War II.

Proponents of Bush's kangaroo court say: Don't you soft-on-terror,
due-process types know there's a war on? Have you forgotten our 5,000
civilian dead? In an emergency like this, aren't extraordinary security
measures needed to save citizens' lives? If we step on a few toes, we
can apologize to the civil libertarians later.

Those are the arguments of the phony-tough. At a time when even liberals
are debating the ethics of torture of suspects  weighing the distaste
for barbarism against the need to save innocent lives  it's time for
conservative iconoclasts and card-carrying hard-liners to stand up for
American values.

To meet a terrorist emergency, of course some rules should be stretched
and new laws passed. An ethnic dragnet rounding up visa-skippers or
questioning foreign students, if short-term, is borderline tolerable
Congress's new law permitting warranted roving wiretaps is
understandable.

But let's get to the target that this blunderbuss order is intended to
hit. Here's the big worry in Washington now: What do we do if Osama bin
Laden gives himself up? A proper trial like that Israel afforded Adolf
 Eichmann, it is feared, would give the terrorist a global propaganda
platform. Worse, it would be likely to result in widespread
hostage-taking by his followers to protect him from the punishment he
deserves.

The solution is not to corrupt our judicial tradition by making bin
Laden the star of a new Star Chamber. The solution is to turn his cave
into his crypt. When fleeing Taliban reveal his whereabouts, our bombers
should
promptly bid him farewell with 15,000-pound daisy-cutters and
5,000-pound rock-penetrators.

But what if he broadcasts his intent to surrender, and walks toward us
under a white flag? It is not in our tradition to shoot prisoners.
Rather, President Bush should now set forth a policy of "universal
surrender": all of Al Qaeda or none. Selective surrender of one or a
dozen leaders  which would leave cells in Afghanistan and elsewhere
free to fight on  is unacceptable. We should continue our bombardment
of bin Laden's
hideouts until he agrees to identify and surrender his entire terrorist
force.

If he does, our criminal courts can handle them expeditiously. If, as
more likely, the primary terrorist prefers what he thinks of as
martyrdom, that suicidal choice would be his  and Americans would have
no need of kangaroo courts to betray our principles of justice.

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