Thanks Chuck for the added info. I only meant this advice as an addition to having virus protection. No one should be without virus protection!!!!! Unless you have a Mac. Over the last few days I have been hit with several warnings each day for viruses coming in...the badtrans is one that you can get without even opening an attachment which is why protection is vital! I have my live updates on automatic...everytime I connect to the internet I get another update if needed. Otherwise if you forget to update, in just one day you could be hit with a new virus (ala the goner one that got hatched yesterday)