Overall it wasn't that big a deal
Susan, for something that overall was not a big deal you sure do sound insulted. I just showed what I wrote to my employee (who is a lesbian) and she didn't think there was anything to get upset about but she did say "Will, these are internet acquaintances that you've made but you don't really know them or there sensitivity level. You can't possibly construct your statements through a medium such as this and have it suit everybody."
I am not insulted that you find a lesbian attractive GEEZ! It's that >you seem surprised that you do.
Surprised? I'm not surprised, I've always been attracted to lesbian women not just because some or many might be beautiful on the outside but because many are beautiful on the inside. I've got a few friends that many would consider the the stereotypical lesbian yet I find them cute, and funny, and a great bunch to hang around with. I find their issues to be more honest than most other minorities and they can take a joke(as long as they know you respect them deep down)
I may very well be the only one who took it this way or the only one >who will admit it. I don't care, THIS is the way I feel. Too often >in our society the invisible lesbian stays in the background,
I hope you truly were the only one to feel like this and I haven't found that too many people on this list tend to hold back much. I'm sure I would have heard other comments by now and thankfully I have not. By the way, I wouldn't think that a Joni List is a place where a lesbian should feel like she should remain invisible, everybody here appears to be very accepting of both gay men and women. I have found that a lot of people on this list joke around about sex and their orientation in a very laid back and friendly manner. Still, I'm glad you spoke up and decided to let me know that you weren't comfortable with what you read. I really don't mean to instigate a lengthy discussion that you might perceive as me being an ass trying to get you revved up but would you have reacted differently if you had known prior that I too was a lesbian or if I had been gay or black. I think its a common perception (that is probably true) that most straight guys like to bash homosexuals but not me. Under the dark smokie veils of the battlefield, its easy to shoot someone that is on your side, I'm not the enemy.
Must say I would be insulted by your reference to "crazy black women" as well, were I black, WIll.
I really do think that when your read this quote, with the sentence that came before and after, that it is obvious that I was referring to the ability of this huge group of black women to let it all GO and get CRAZY because they were in the presence of their main man Barry White. The poor guys, who probably bought both their ticket and their girlfriend's ticket, were truly ignored because Barry was in the room. Talk about INVISIBLE! When Barry brought out 2 sets of stair from the stage to audience so women could file up and get a hug, they truly went CRAZY and nobody could have called it anything different. This is a GOOD crazy. Remember-"Happiness is the Best Facelift".
BY the way which pile would you put Joan Armatrading in the "lesbian" >or with the "crazy black women"I wouldn't pile Joan Armatrading anywhere because I don't personally know her. I assume she is a lesbian because my lesbian friends tell me that she is. The only thing I know for sure is that she is a "black woman" but I don't know that she is a "black woman CRAZY about Barry White".
Peace
Will
One last comment on Joan Armatrading. I lived in St. Christopher(St. Kitts) for 3 years(Joan's place of birth and residence until a teenager). Nobody there knows who she is! The only one who ever said "Ah yes!" was my landlord, a black Kittician that had studied abroad/states (doctorate in Botany). He knew of her while in New York/Cornell not because she was a fellow Kittician. I found that very odd. The island is only 17 miles long!!!
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