Helen Thomas, the most senior member of the White House press corps, 
 and Bush press secretary Ari Fleischer on Monday over the issue of 
Iraq. Check out the dialogue:

January 6, 2003 - 12:35 P.M. EST

MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon and happy New Year to everybody. The 
President began his day with an intelligence briefing, followed by an 
FBI briefing. Then he had a series of policy briefings. And this 
afternoon, the President will look forward to a Cabinet meeting where 
the President will discuss with members of his Cabinet his agenda for 
the year. The President is going to focus on economic growth, making 
America a more compassionate country, and providing for the security of 
our nation abroad and on the homefront.

And with that, I'm more than happy to take your questions. Helen.

HELEN THOMAS: At the earlier briefing, Ari, you said that the President 
deplored the taking of innocent lives. Does that apply to all innocent 
lives in the world? And I have a follow-up.

MR. FLEISCHER: I refer specifically to a horrible terrorist attack on 
Tel Aviv that killed scores and wounded hundreds. And the President, as 
he said in his statement yesterday, deplores in the strongest terms the 
taking of those lives and the wounding of those people, innocents in 
Israel.

MS. THOMAS: My follow-up is, why does he want to drop bombs on innocent 
Iraqis?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, the question is how to protect Americans, and our 
allies and friends --

MS. THOMAS: They're not attacking you.

MR. FLEISCHER: -- from a country --

MS. THOMAS: Have they laid the glove on you or on the United States, the 
Iraqis, in 11 years?

MR. FLEISCHER: I guess you have forgotten about the Americans who were 
killed in the first Gulf War as a result of Saddam Hussein's aggression 
then.

MS. THOMAS: Is this revenge, 11 years of revenge?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, I think you know very well that the President's 
position is that he wants to avert war, and that the President has asked 
the United Nations to go into Iraq to help with the purpose of averting 
war.

MS. THOMAS: Would the President attack innocent Iraqi lives?

MR. FLEISCHER: The President wants to make certain that he can defend 
our country, defend our interests, defend the region, and make certain 
that American lives are not lost.

MS. THOMAS: And he thinks they are a threat to us?

MR. FLEISCHER: There is no question that the President thinks that Iraq 
is a threat to the United States.

MS. THOMAS: The Iraqi people?

MR. FLEISCHER: The Iraqi people are represented by their government. If 
there was regime change, the Iraqi --

MS. THOMAS: So they will be vulnerable?

MR. FLEISCHER: Actually, the President has made it very clear that he 
has not dispute with the people of Iraq. That's why the American policy 
remains a policy of regime change. There is no question the people of 
Iraq --

MS. THOMAS: That's a decision for them to make, isn't it? It's their 
country.

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, if you think that the people of Iraq are in a 
position to dictate who their dictator is, I don't think that has been 
what history has shown.

MS. THOMAS: I think many countries don't have -- people don't have the 
decision -- including us.

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