> In a message dated 1/21/2003 9:39:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
Good points, Bob!

We were told in our literature class in college that what makes a classic
a classic is the timelessness of the story, the passions evoked, etc.

Maybe we can apply the same to a standard. After all, a standard is some
kind of yardstick to gauge other people/song/idea/anything.

> Good question, Deb...I have no pat answers but some thoughts. First I
> would say that "Moon At The Window" has the potential to become a
> standard. In the past year or so a couple of versions have been done.
> Repetition is certainly a factor...look at the numbers of times that the
> Rodgers/Hart, Gershwin, Bacharach, Hoagy Carmichael songbooks have been
> raided. It would be silly to propose that songs like "Stardust",
> "Summertime", "My Funny Valentine" are NOT standards, solely based on
> the NUMBER of times they've been recorded. So what number makes a song a
> standard, I dunno.

There are Gershwin tunes that have not been over-recorded (like
"Delish-yous") but are strangely referred to as standards by liner-notes
writers. I don't know. Maybe its because it was written by a Gershwin
(whose songs majority of which are now called standards) therefore its
automatically a standard. I don't know the answer for that one.

> For instance, how many standards use the
> word "gay" in context of happiness as opposed to context of sexuality?

Funny you mentioned this because yesterday while I was listening to
Shirley Horn sing "He Was Too Good For Me" (from her live album "I Love
You, Paris"), there was a line that says: "I was a queen to him; who would
make me feel so gay now..."  At the risk of sounding like someone with an
automatic heterosexualist framework, but I always assumed that that song
is being sung by a woman to another man. But now, I don't know.

Joseph in Manila
np: Joe Henderson "Big Band"

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