Pretty well put Blair though I have a tiny little difference ... that is
there is sex and making love.  You are correct in saying that "sex is just
sex, but there are the apropos
times to discuss it and not. But, most of us know when. :)"  When I make
love with my husband, I consider it a private thing between us.  The topic
of sex is good fuel for a conversation though :-)
My parents were also uptight about the subject of sex.  Heck, when I got my
period my mother just handed me some sanitary napkins and left the room!  I
learned more from my girlfriends.  I really wish my parents were a little
more playful when it came to the topic of sex.

I enjoyed Michele Kort's biography on Laura Nyro also.  I wish I knew this
much about her before my opportunity to speak with her.  I think we could
have spoken more.  What did you think of the Joni quotes?

Best-
Heather

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          Personally, I love how brutally upfront you are being about it.
Sex is so often thought of as a private affair. My parents are raised not to
talk about sex, nor to talk to others, even close friends about it, they
feel it makes a person look sleezy or like a tramp or that they hold no
morals or respect. I don't know, sex is just sex, but there are the apropos
times to discuss it and not. But, most of us know when. :)
       Blair

NP: Poverty Train, "Laura Nyro"



>
>to me it's pretty much like having a nose job or dying your hair. at odds
>with your body features. you just go and do something about it. the woman
>trapped in the body of a male is pretty simple stuff to me (ditto opposite
>predicament). the lesbian trapped in the body of a male or the gay man
>trapped in the body of a female are still hard for me to grasp as concepts,
>though. but i'm working on it.
>for instance, my younger sister is married to gay man. they haven't had sex
>for ages. he cruises and does the gay thing and she goes with him and picks
>up other young gay men and so forth. she has always dated gay men. so maybe
>she is a gay man trapped in a female body in search of gay men. or her
>husband is a trapped lesbian. or my sister is in love with me and this is
>the closest thing to being married to me. i am not the only strange fruit
>in
>my family as you see.
>the times she had sex with women, though, were totally blah. she did it
>just
>because there was a guy too and she wanted to do the "schoolgirls kissing
>and playing" thingy for the guy. straight guys apparently get terribly
>turned on when they see women having sex with each other. i know because i
>rent a lot of straight porn.
>i have had lovers that wanted me to act as if i were a woman while i was
>screwing them, but they didn't want a transvestite. they wanted a big bear
>of a guy to be their "little woman" and they wanted their little woman to
>penetrate them. man, i should write my memoirs. a few days ago i came to
>the
>conclusion that the only things i haven't done are kids, animals and
>corpses. i'm not bragging or anything. why is it that for some of us sex is
>just like fixing a salad and some other people would have a hemorrhage if i
>told them about my sexual life? why is sex such taboo?
>wallyK, sincerely asking
>
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>
>It is about a person being totally
>at odds with the body they have. Their being one sex and their body
>being the opposite sex. Must be an awful situation to be in. I doubt
>veyr much that people go thru this because they desire sex!


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