Rules of Attraction (ROA) really was a great read.  Not as
brilliant as I think American Psycho (AP) is,  but I did
read Rules very closely because I wanted to follow exacttly
what was being said - and you are the first person that I
know of who has commented on the "mindless dismissial of
other people" and want to yell, "yes, yes" and wish I had
put that into words - that is a great insight and key to
the book.

As for Bob's comments about characters that "I just don't
care about" well that is one of the challenges huh?  For me
it has been not to like or dislike the characters (who is
there to like?) but to see myself in those characters, to
see the, shall we say, less flattering aspects of my own
self being writ large like that, taken to the next level - 

As for ROA and AP - aren't our main chgaracters brothers?
 It is a Bateman in each book (think about that name,
hmmmm) and I think in ROA we are briefly introduced to the
Bateman in AP. 

For me AP is is in part a very chilling indictment on the
materialism of the the 80s and the critique of our culture
I so utterly agree with - and as Ellis counterposes the
culture of acquistion against war, peace, and jjustice
issues  (especially in the restaurant scene but elsewhere)
I think it is as applicable today, maybe much more so, than
it was in the 80s.  I say that wearing my American Trails
shirt, lookiong at the time on my Timex single stemmed
black and silver watch, making a subtle change of foot
position in my AndOne shoes, my aerobiciced and
yoga-pilated body flexing beneath the Levi 501 jeans and
readjusting my Parveau reading glasses which are just large
enough to help me read print and text and my Apple G4
monitor but not so large as to appear as if I actually
needed glasses.

When my dad was in the hospital in Decembner I had several
Bret Easton Ellis books with me (the only one I haven't
read is Glamorama) and  it was quite the juxtaposition
sometimes to look up from the book and deal with my father!
 

Question: would you recommend a Bret Perry Ellis book -
especially AP - to anyone else?  Don't know that I would
with AP - as brilliant a book as I think it is, the best
fiction that I read in many,many years, I am afraid of what
others would think of me if they read it and knew how much
I liked it - would they catch the penetrating relentless
reflectiuon of American life, or simply think I was a sicko
with demented reading tastes?

Vince



Tamsin Lucas' post
I'm quite a fan of The Rules of Attraction most of all. All
that emptiness and angst and mindless dismissal of other
people... - sometimes being at university did feel like
that - as if everyone was competing to be the most "angsty"
- I think that's what I particularly liked about TRoA. Also
I love Donna Tartt's The Secret History and the same
characters pop up in the background of both books which is
cool. I believe Tartt and Eliis went to the same college.

Bob's post
>Bret Easton Ellis = a very talented writer with characters
I just can't care
>about, which makes for a strange reading experience. (And
I'm not just
>talking about "American Psycho" here.)
>

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