wow. i was so enthusiastic with roscoe's take on "talk to me" a couple of days ago that i literally slaughtered my attempt to reference and comment. i'll get it right before i try that again. cut, copy, paste........whatever. tutorial from my son to ensue immediately. my most humble apologies to all, especially to you, roscoe (terry) that i fecked it up so badly. janet NP: laura nyro; gonna take a miracle :)