WebStart is going away. It is the only part of Java that isn't open source and they explicitely stated they won't open source it: https://twitter.com/DonaldOJDK/status/971492781616136194
So at least starting from September we'll have to make the WebStart link less prominent as it won't work anymore for Windows and macOS users having their Java up-to-date. It will work natively only on Linux, where openjdk package includes the retro-engineered free version of WebStart (netx/icedtea-web): https://icedtea.classpath.org/wiki/IcedTea-Web I don't know if the few (single?) people behind IcedTea-Web will have the desire to maintain it after Oracle drops it from JDK. I don't know either if icedtea-web requires jar signing: maybe we will be able to drop the requirement to sign josm.jar, thus asking to Frederik to pay for the certificates ;) JavaFX will be given to someone else soon. Maybe the Eclipse Foundation, like Java EE which has be transferred to Eclipse, without the permission to call it Java EE anymore. Or maybe the Apache Foundation, where they already made OpenOffice and Hudson die there (given that they have been successfully forked as LibreOffice and Jenkins). AWT and Swing will still be here in Java 11. But the fact they mention it explicitely today probably means they have plans to remove it as soon as Java 12 development starts (in 6 months). I have no idea if the new project will create enough traction to have enough contributors (volunteers or pais staff from other companies), we'll see. Swing is still used a lot in the industry. At least we should be able to fix Swing bugs ourselves when we find ones. Concerning JOSM it means we will probably have to ship AWT, Swing and JavaFX in josm.jar. In JDK9 the desktop module (AWT+Swing) weights 13Mb, the various JavaFX modules 30Mb. JOSM jar is only 12Mb today. Cheers, Vincent 2018-03-08 11:19 GMT+01:00 Dirk Stöcker <openstreet...@dstoecker.de>: > On Thu, 8 Mar 2018, Dirk Stöcker wrote: > > [nothing] > > Sorry, operator error :-) > > > Ciao > -- > http://www.dstoecker.eu/ (PGP key available) >