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Thank you Sanath for sending this email.  This clarifies some of the 
questions.  Even though clones are created in an unnatural way the church is 
giving them all the dignities of human life.  So it is wrong to kill the 
clone to get organs or body parts for transplantation.  It is wrong to create 
clones just for the purpose of getting body parts for research or curing 
diseases.  It falls under a category similar to abortion, doesn't it?  I 
agree than human life should be created only in a way that God intended it to 
be created.  Once a human life is created (regardless of the means) it is 
wrong to kill that human being.  
With Prayers,
Lovely Thomas/Chicago/USA

In a message dated 12/2/01 7:39:44 AM Central Standard Time, 
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> Hi friends,
>             Praise the Lord...
> Check out this statement from the statement realeased
> by VATICAN.... 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Vatican Statement on Human Cloning 
> (27 November 2001)
> 
> VATICAN CITY, NOV 27, 2001 (VIS) - Following is the
> communique released
> on NOV 27 by the Holy See Press Office regarding the
> announcement on Sunday in the United States of the
> successful cloning 
> of
> a human embryo:
> 
>    "The original article in the magazine 'The Journal
> of Regenerative
> Medicine', that the researchers of Advanced Cell
> Technologies published
> with the date of November 26, 2001, shows in all its
> dramatic nature 
> the
> gravity of the event that has been realized: the in
> vitro production of
> a human embryo, as a matter of fact, several embryos,
> that have been
> developed, respectively, to the stage of two, four and
> six cells. This
> event was documented with clear color images from a
> scansion 
> microscope,
> that point out the first phases of development of
> these human lives,
> which began not through the insemination of an egg
> with a sperm, but by
> activating eggs with nuclei of somatic cells.
> 
>    "The authors repeated that their intention is not
> to give rise to a
> human person. But what is it that they, as scientists,
> call in their
> article 'early embryo', an embryo in its initial
> stages? Here we have
> the bioethical question of 'when does human life
> begin' returning once
> again as a topical matter, though in all truth, this
> is a question that
> has never abated. Beyond the scientific event, in
> fact, this remains as
> the object of contention, being beyond doubt - as
> indicated by the
> researchers themselves  -  that here we find ourselves
> facing human
> embryos and not cells, as some would have us believe.
> 
>    "The event therefore, powerfully, brings us to
> repeat with force 
> that
> the beginning of human life cannot be fixed by
> convention at a certain
> stage of development of an embryo; it exists, in
> reality, at the very
> first instant of existence of the embryo itself. This
> is understood 
> more
> easily in the 'human' method of insemination between
> egg and sperm, but
> we must learn to recognize it also in the face of an
> 'inhuman' method,
> such as that of the reprogramming of a somatic nucleus
> in an egg cell;
> even with this method a new life can be created  -  as
> shown
> unfortunately in the experiment that was announced - a
> life that
> preserves, in any case, its dignity just as that of
> every human life
> brought into existence.
> 
>    "Therefore, notwithstanding the declared
> 'humanistic' intentions of
> those who announce amazing cures through this method,
> that will go via
> the cloning industry, a calm but firm evaluation is
> necessary that will
> show the moral gravity of this project and motivate
> its unequivocal
> condemnation. The principle that de facto has been
> introduced, in the
> name of health and well-being, sanctions, in fact, a
> true and proper
> discrimination among human beings based on the measure
> of time of their
> development (thus an embryo is worth less than a
> fetus, and a fetus 
> less
> than a child, a child less than an adult), overturning
> the moral
> imperative that imposes, instead, the greatest care
> and maximum respect
> precisely of those who are not in a condition to
> defend themselves and
> to show their intrinsic dignity.
> 
>    "On the other hand, stem cell research shows that
> other paths are
> available, morally licit and valid from a scientific
> point of view, 
> such
> as the utilization of stem cells that have been taken,
> for example, 
> from
> an adult individual (there are many in each one of
> us), from maternal
> blood or from fetuses that were aborted spontaneously.
> This is the path
> that every honest scientist must follow to the end of
> reserving maximum
> respect for man, that is, for himself."
> 
> .../HUMAN EMBRYO CLONING/...    VIS 20011127 (610)
> 
> 
> With Prayers,
> Sanath Henry

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