I think that, for any plugin which achieves official status, the jQuery team
should have a say in it's development. 

  _____  

From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Glen Lipka
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:38 PM
To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com
Subject: [jQuery] Re: CNN and Apple Choose Prototype. Why?


Some Plugin site examples:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/  (If only we knew someone who
works there)
http://codex.wordpress.org/Plugins  <http://codex.wordpress.org/Plugins> 
http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/
http://themes.wordpress.net/

One thing that I notice reading the thread, is this feeling that the jQuery
core team should administer official plugins.  Although I definitely see the
value in this, I also think the "wisdom of crowds" can be leveraged.  Seeing
stats about Who uses a plugin, how they rate it, how many downloads etc. 
It makes the community more self-serving, rather than command-control.

Think Netflix model or Amazon model.

I do think think this discussion is critical.  The difference between wide
adoption and boutique adoption have alot to do with these decisions. 

Glen






On 6/14/07, Jake McGraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


I won't argue that there are some great plugins out there, I just
think if the dev team has to figure out where their finite amount of
time should be spent, I say keep it centered on core development and
not in implementing a "plugins repo", although if anyone outside of
dev would like to take the task, I'm certainly not against the idea.

I say most, not all, plugins are superfluous because they, in my 
experience, often add features which are already accessible using
jQuery core or some native JavaScript feature. The prime example, in
my mind, of this is any plugin which has some kind of Ajax feature,
which I think jQuery handles beautifully on its own. 

So, once again, not to offend anyone, I think plugins are great,
personally I've used datepicker, jqModal and Interface extensively, I
just don't think they warrant dev time away from core.

- jake 

On 6/14/07, Glen Lipka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't get why Prototype is "fluffy"?  It seems harder for me to do
> anything in prototype. 
>  I actually feel like its the opposite.  jQuery is friendlier to designers
> and Prototype is geared to hard core types.
>
>  And on subject of Plugins...
> I don't know how "Tabs" is superfluous.  I use interface once in a blue 
> moon.  I use tabs almost every time.
> For forms, Validation is almost REQUIRED (pun).
>  The history plugin has no alternative.
>
> I just dont get the superfluous thing.
>
>  Its really interesting to me how these libraries are perceived so 
> differently by people with different needs.
>
>  Glen
>
> On 6/14/07, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Great to hear AJ. Who was the company so we can add it to the list? 
> >
> > Rey
> >
> > AJ wrote:
> > >> Prototype is nice and fluffy, for 'designers' who use macs, and
> > >> dreamweaver and sit around all day in design meetings coming up with 
> > >> 'great design ideas', drinking skinny lattes
> > >>
> > >> JQuery is hardcore, for geeks who use linux and Eclipse, who come up
> > >> with actual useful sites, rather than just showcases to please 
> > >> managment and drink coffee with an extra shot caffine.
> > >
> > > I think that's a pretty broad generalization. I use jQuery exclusively
> > > and am also a pretty zealous Mac user. I'm also a designer and an 
> > > Eclipse user :)
> > >
> > > Either way, I'm really appreciative of all the really interesting
> > > comments so far. I'm glad I wasn't missing something in the Prototype 
> > > vs jQuery debate.
> > >
> > > To that point, I just recently finished an application I thought I'd
> > > share. It's basically an image annotation tool that allows the client 
> > > to add large jpgs, zoom and pan them. They also can add markers to the
> > > image as annotations and move *those* around, and all the markers and
> > > comments are all updated via ajax. This was for a $200 billion company

> > > and was all done with jQuery, Interface and PHP.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > BrightLight Development, LLC.
> > 954-775-1111 (o)
> > 954-600-2726 (c) 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.iambright.com
> >
>
>



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