Thanks for the suggestion mike... i will take that into account as well...
isn't it a pain. why wouldn't IE implement something as clearly documented
as box model... maybe it implemented it before box model was properly
documented. i dont know.

- GTG


On 6/26/07, Mike Alsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Ganeshji,

Remember to check the box model before blindly adding the margin
values.   You can use the jQuery.boxModel property to check the
browser's impl.

Mike


On 6/26/07, Ganeshji Marwaha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no problem brandon, i seems like, i just have to add margin-left and
> margin-height properties. its all well, as long as there is some
solution...
> :)
>
>
> On 6/26/07, Brandon Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sorry I thought you where looking for offsetWidth which is what
outerWidth
> method does.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Brandon Aaron
> >
> >
> > On 6/26/07, Ganeshji Marwaha < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > thanks glen... but i don't completely agree, because technically,
> according to the box model, width does not include border, padding,
margin
> etc.
> > > But the total box's width, (not the element's width property)
accounts
> for width+border+padding+margin. This is how a box is seen by the
browser
> AFAIK.
> > >
> > > So, it is understandable that jquery's width() method returns the
> elements width style alone . But why is dimension's plugin explicitly
> intended to give the width+padding+border without including the margin?
> maybe because that is what offsetWidth property returns and that is what
> outerWidth means probably... no idea. It would be great if someone knew
the
> answer.
> > >
> > > Regardless, thank u very much for the calculation suggestion. it
works..
> i used offsetWidth + margin-left + margin-right and it works like a
charm.
> Dont know what will happen when percent values are specified though. got
to
> try that out as well ;)
> > >
> > > -GTG
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/26/07, Glen Lipka < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > But margin shouldn't be included in width.
> > > > According to box model that is outside the box.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/box.html
> > > >
> > > > Hmm, is there something that computes it all?
> > > > http://www.redmelon.net/tstme/box_model/  <-- not
> helpful but cool to play with.
> > > >
> > > > You could do it on your own, offset + margin-left + margin-right
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Glen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 6/26/07, Ganeshji Marwaha < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > hey, thanks for putting together a demo page in no time...
> > > > > Still, in your settings the margin is not included. When i
include
> the margin, the outerWidth returns the result excluding the margin.
> > > > >
> > > > > :((
> > > > >
> > > > > - GTG
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 6/26/07, Glen Lipka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > http://www.commadot.com/jquery/dimensions/
> > > > > > Im too slow. But I made a little test page to see what outputs
> what.
> > > > > > Change the settings in firebug and click the box.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Glen
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 6/26/07, Ganeshji Marwaha < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > thanks brandon... lemme try that now.... i will keep u
posted on
> how it goes...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 6/26/07, Brandon Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > > > > You need to use the outerWidth and outerHeight methods of
the
> Dimensions plugin. The width and height just return the actual width and
> height according to the box model.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Brandon Aaron
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 6/26/07, Ganeshji Marwaha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > thanks glen,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > but dimensions also return the same result as does
jquery's
> height() and width() method...
> > > > > > > > > I checked dimesion's source and it seems to delegate the
> call to jquery core's width() / height() method, if the call was not for
> document or window.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So, still i am getting the width and  height without the
> margin... :(..
> > > > > > > > > Is there anything else i am missing here.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -GTG
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 6/26/07, Glen Lipka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Are you using the dimensions plugin?
> > > > > > > > > > It might be worth using.  Alot of plugins depend on
it.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Glen
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 6/26/07, Ganeshji Marwaha < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > friends,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > In the process of developing this jCarouselLite
plugin,
> i am facing a problem. When i retrieve the width or height of an element
> that has a margin associated with it, then the returned width/height
does
> not take the margin into account.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone help me here?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > -GTG
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 6/26/07, Dan G. Switzer, II <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having the same problem with my plug-in...
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Dan
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl Swedberg
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:11 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: jCarouselLite - my first
plugin
> - anxiously awaiting comments
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm so sorry about that. Unfortunately, your guess
is
> as good as mine. I see that it is listed in the "Projects" list when I
click
> on the "Issues" link in the left-hand nav.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Probably your best bet is to Submit an "Issue" for
it.
> In the "Projects" select list, choose "jQuery Plugins Website." Mike
> Hostetler, who is managing the plugins repository, is keeping an eye on
this
> list and fixing bugs as he has time.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone else has an idea for Ganeshji, please
chime
> in! :)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --Karl
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > _________________
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Karl Swedberg
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > www.englishrules.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > www.learningjquery.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 2007, at 1:11 AM, Ganeshji Marwaha
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > hi karl, i tried adding it to
> http://jquery.com/plugins/ page. Everthing went thru fine, but the
plugin
> doesn't show up. Is there something that i am doing wrong?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -GTG
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/25/07, Karl Swedberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > be sure to add it to http://jquery.com/plugins/
> (without the "docs."), too!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The "docs" plugin page is deprecated. (Not gone
away,
> just deprecated.)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --Karl
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > _________________
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Karl Swedberg
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > www.englishrules.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > www.learningjquery.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 25, 2007, at 3:20 PM, Mike Alsup wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Just register and then you can add it yourself.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, I like this plugin.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > How do i add this plugin to the jquery plugins
page
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > (http://docs.jquery.com/Plugins).
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > -GTG
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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