David,
Thank you so much for the excellent feedback! I appreciate your
taking the time to offer suggestions and report problems. I'll
respond to the individual items below, but overall, this is really,
really helpful.
Please especially look at my response to #7, as I hate the thought of
this not working at all for you.
On Oct 20, 2007, at 4:18 PM, DaveG wrote:
PS: Some of the books on your Amazon list look interesting :)
thanks for visiting. :)
--- *Usage* ---
1] On the demo page, I'd suggest that the simplest case (from a
library user perspective) is actually a link with a tip provided in
the title. It took me quite a while to work out how to do this, as
the hint attempted to get loaded from the title element as if title
was a URL. My problem was that I was trying to use "attribute" to
set my hint text, not *titleAttribute*.
However after I figured it out I did find the appropriate
documentation, just scattered around a little. Here's the new demo
I'd suggest adding as number 1, simple case:
<a id='e' href="http://xxxx"; title="My title|my hint">abc</a>
jQuery('#e')
.cluetip({
titleAttribute:'title',
splitTitle:'|'
});
I see your point here. Since the plugin was inspired by jTip, which
just does the ajax bit (no local or title-based tooltips), I always
had it in my head that an ajax example would be the simplest. But
you're absolutely right that a user would probably think of the title-
based tooltip as the simplest. To accommodate that perspective, I'll
have to rewrite some of the documentation as well as the demo, but I
think it's worth it.
2] Next demo you might add is a hint with no title.
<a id='e' href="http://xxxx"; title="|my hint">abc</a>
jQuery('#e')
.cluetip({
titleAttribute:'title',
splitTitle:'|',
showTitle: false;
});
good idea. will add that.
3] It looks like adding a hint to an element, and then hovering
over the target changes the cursor to a 'question-mark arrow'.
That's fine, except when combined with the ability to turn off
hints, when elements which were hovered over retain the question-
mark cursor, which seems odd to users, now that hints are off.
I'd suggest returning the cursor state to it's original value on
mouseout. That way when hints are later turned off all is well.
another good idea.
4] You might consider adding a means of removing hints from
elements (or simply document the workaround). I accomplished this
by simply adding an onActivate handler:
jQuery( element )
.cluetip({
onActivate: function(e) {
return false;
}
});
yes. The onActivate option was added by Hector Santos, but I'm not
sure it's available in the 0.9.0 version on the download page at
jquery.com/plugins/ yet. The jTip theme example #5 at http://
plugins.learningjquery.com/cluetip/demo/ shows how to use onActivate
to turn clueTips on and off with a checkbox (also provided by
Hector). I need to add this to the API/options tab, though.
5] Consider adding a top/bottom arrow pointer for use with
positionBy:'bottomTop'.
Added! :-) Already had this working, but forgot to upload the new
images and the updated css file to the server.
6] The left/right arrow appears very specific to putting the arrow
in the top left/right corners. It would be nice to be able to put
the arrow in the center, so it might be used in conjunction with
the bubble type style.
One way to do this might be to provide a means of replacing the
tl.gif and bl.gif classes with their top/bottom or left/right
equivalents. This would fix [5] as well.
Hmmm. The code is supposed to adjust the background position of the
clue-left-[theme name] and clue-right-[theme name] classes so that
the arrows will point to the invoking element even if the tooltip is
adjusted upwards. However, the rounded corners css, specifically the
background images, might make it difficult to implement arrows with
it. I'm not sure where to go with this one. But maybe since I added
support for #5, this is already a possibility?
--- *Possible Bugs* ---
7] positionBy 'auto' appears not to work. The hint does not seem to
accommodate the viewport scrolling. The other positioning methods
work fine though. (I'm using the latest dimensions -- the one
provided in the clueTip download.)
The only time I have heard of this breaking is when the plugin has
been used with the latest Dimensions plugin in svn, not the one that
comes with the clueTip download bundle. But maybe there is a problem
on a particular browser that I'm not aware of yet.
Could you please do 2 things for me?
1. tell me which browser you're using
2. test the examples at http://plugins.learningjquery.com/cluetip/
demo/ and let me know if you encounter the problem there as well.
8] When shrinking the window, the hint for elements on the right
side gets moved over to the center of the window, too far from the
target element.
I haven't come across this one before, but I'll play around with
resizing and see if I can find/solve the problem.
-- *Documentation* ---
9] The Demo Page seems to have Known Issues and Downloads at the
bottom -- not sure that's meant to be there.
Oops! Good catch. Removed.
10] On the details page you mention that hints can fade in, but it
takes a little digging to find out *how* to do this (it's on the
API page).
11] Example 5 shows how hints can be turned off. However the code
in the download does not include the onActivate parameter required
to make this happen. I found a copy in SVN which has this in it, so
presumably the doc is a little ahead of the production code. Took a
while to work out what I was doing wrong though :)
In the meantime, I simply copy/pasted the few lines required for
this functionality from svn.
Yes, you're right about that. Sorry! I should have a new download
available in the next few days, as soon as I implement your
suggestions. :-)
Thanks again, Dave!
--Karl
