Chris,
I basically agree with you, however, what one can do with Sonar and a lesser
powered computer does depend somewhat on what kinds of projects a person is
working on.
For example, if you're just recording and processing a single stereo track,
this might work okay. Processing might take a bit longer, but it will work.
Maybe even having a midi track or two with soft synths would be okay.
but, as you say, as soon as you get into a reasonably sized project, you
could be severely bogged down.
--Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Chris Belle
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 5:33 AM
To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar discussion list
Subject: Re: [Jsonar] JSonar scripts in conflict with sonar
go look at the minimum specs cakewalk recommends for sonar 8.5
then go do your research on the differences
between a real computer and a netbook, the
sub-systems, and ram, and slow hard-drives etc.
Daws require a lot more from a computer, and yes,
the sound card is only one of those issues, you
might have gotten by with using sonar 6, but it
couldn't have run well on a netbook.
Cubass is a good product, and well respected in
the industry, again I submit it's probably your
inadequate hardware which is causing the problem.
Nothing personal, I've been doing this a lot of
years, and I teach this stuff every day.
I just wish to save you lots of frustration,
because you will eventually come to the
conclusion that you need better hardware.
I guarantee no audio professionals in any studio
would be using netbooks to do anything serious with.
If you are getting audio drop-outs, well, your computer can't keep up
YOu can disable certain things and try to squeeze
more performance by shutting down stuff, but your
already in a very marginal situation.
But if you know better, then I wish you lots of luck 'smile'.
At 10:04 PM 6/23/2011, you wrote:
>Hello Chris.
> Your observation is very interesting, I really
> would have to have a more robust computer for
> this purpose. But I want to note that when using sonar 6.0, the tools
>could run reasonably well, and there were not
>invested in an external card. You acknowledge
>that, without using the external card, the computer has a greater amount
>of information to process, since the basic
>internal cards for computers are not designed
>for such functions. Therefore, I disagree with the thesis that I could
>not get any performance using a netbook, as I
>said, I've had the experience to run VSTi
>plugins on the board inside the netbook and I see no problem no run on the
>sonar 8.0. As for the investment of a better
>computer, I think everything has its time, I can
>not go investing all the good and the best can not afford. So I believe
>I can get reasonable performance with what I
>have, and this can not be the only solution to solve the problem.
>While I can not properly use sonar, I'm using
>Cubase 5.0 with great difficulty, by its
>interface more inaccessible than the performance
>he is presenting on my machine,
>which is very reasonable as not to get to
>serious problems. Cubase was chosen in terms of
>a music course and I'm doing is working relatively well. Even with respect
>to two applications, cubase is much more
>unstable than the sonar. In version 6 Sonar no
>longer has support for most cards asio, lives in version 8.0 has problems
>in time to put in effect by choosing tracks midi
>controlers ... Anyway, I think this is not the
>only solution. Greetings, Gabriel
>
>
>-----Mensagem original-----
>De: Chris Belle <[email protected]>
>Para: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar discussion list <[email protected]>
>Data: Quinta, 23 de Junho de 2011 20:27
>Assunto: Re: [Jsonar] JSonar scripts in conflict with sonar
>
>It's a big mistake to expect any decent performance with a netbook.
>
>netbooks are cheap low performance computers,
>never mind the specs, what's under the hood is
>roughly equivalent to a pentium 3 700 mhz
>machine, and just be glad it's working at all.
>
>I went through this with one of my students who
>insisted on using a netbook, and we wasted lots
>of time trying to put things to rights which will never work.
>
>YOu just don't have a computer powerful enough to run sonar 8.5 properly.
>
>I might run sonar 4 on it, or reaper
>with light loads, not expecting any processing
>but to track with, but you should get a more
>powerful computer, and if you expect good laptop
>performance, you need to be very picky and choosy
>about which models, and again, you get what you pay for.
>
>Best regards.
>
>
>
>
>At 06:13 PM 6/23/2011, you wrote:
> >Hello everyone!
> >It is the first time that I am part of this list
> >as I think everyone here does not know me, I should introduce myself.
> >My name is Gabriel Benhur Schuck, I'm from
> >Brazil and Counseling to join this list by
> >Victor Tsaran to ask him to help solve a few
> problems I have with both scripts
> >and sonar, as if they were in conflict. Still
> >could not figure out what might be happening
> >and, as Victor said, because a lot of hardware / software
> >configurations that can be made, it is difficult
> >to JSonar or other developers are able to
> >determine what would be recommended. For this reason, I am asking for
> >your
> >help, as it has become
> >a task of my day to day doing music production
> >and the use of software that do not waste my
> >time with interfaces unfriendly and inaccessible, such as Sonar.
> >I was using version 6.0, and not be working with
> >the asio of my external card, migrated to
> >version 8.0. I downloaded all the scripts correct and I opted for
automatic
> >installation. Until then everything was working
> >perfectly. But suddenly, I started having
> >problems when playing virtual instruments in real-time execution. began
> >the message sonar audio dropout. I did all the
> >suggestions found in the program's help, but to
> >no avail. I chose to reinstall the software and also the scripts,
> >but I could not run the setup Wisard and
> >activate the JSonar control surfaces properly. When I tried to re-enable
the
> >file before running Sonar Producer 8.0
> >accessibility mode.reg , said it was already
> >active. In sonar, going into options and then
> click Control surfaces, appeared
> >the JSonar active control surfaces. Plugins returned
> >to work, but it did not take long for the
> >performance of the sonar had before. Now, the
> current situation is as follows:
> >When I open a new project in the application
> >that generally has four blank tracks and you
> >want to insert a VSTi plugin with the option insert> soft sint, the
script
> >does not follow this change and states that
> >still has four tracks on the project, thus
> >ignoring what had been added. This sometimes happens, sometimes not. When
> >it happens, the plugin (any one that is) does
> >not play. But when the script recognizes, then
> >they usually work, although it is always necessary to manually adjust
> >the output of a midi track to the plugin, which
> >until then was done automatically. I'm using an
> >Acer Aspire One netbook with Windows XP. Intel (r) Atom (tm) 1.60GHz
> >with 2 GB ram, 160 gb hd and sound card usb
> >PreSonus AudioBox. Jaws 12.0.1158. Maximum
> >display resolution set to 100 X 600 pixels. 32-bit color quality.
> >Obsefvação: The reason I made the migration to
> >Sonar 8 was precisely because it offers better
> >support for asio most boards that support this feature, as is the
> >case of AudioBox. I tried to check out other
> >versions, but can not work with the board in
> >this mode and nothing worked to solve the problem. Moreover, if the
script
> >is presenting these strange behaviors with the
> >sonar, it's impossible to know for sure if the
> >JSonar Control Surface is set up correctly. I hope you can help me,
> >because I had to use it much. Thanks, Gabriel
> >
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