Yes, indeed it would. We have conducted a lot of tests, comparing Orion to
JRun/Apache, JRun/IIS etc etc. But since we are far from neutral there would
be very nice if some
3rd party tests took place.

Another issue: Is there a JSP-compliance test suite under development? The
reference implementations samples did a good job of testing an
implementations compliance, but far from "100%". I wonder if there will be
more comprehensive "analasys samples" in the final spec + reference
implementation.

/Magnus Stenman
Orion WebServer - http://orion.evermind.net

-----Original Message-----
From:   A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chandra Chittoor
Sent:   den 27 april 1999 20:27
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        Re: Any large scale implementations ?

Hmmm,
Thanks for your opinions .
2 for JRun so far and 1 for StoryServer (do they have a JSP and Servet
implementation ?).

I wonder if anyone else out there can offer any more opinions/votes ?

Also, are there any comparisons/statistics/benchmarks among the various
implementations?
It would be very very useful to know.

Thanks again
Chandra



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arie Fishler [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 12:27 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: Any large scale implementations ?
>
> I am with Walter here. We have no problems what so ever with Jrun.
> After
> sorting out the initial problems we are doing great things with it.
> The
> possibility to write dynamic pages using Java is great. We haven't
> tested
> our application yet but it will be a large scale one.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
> reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Walter
> Jerusalinsky
> Sent:   Tuesday, April 27, 1999 6:13 PM
> To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:        Re: Any large scale implementations ?
>
> Are You sure?
> Are You writing JSP 0.92 code?
> I am running JRun 2.3 in both linux/apache and NT/IIS 4.0 and NOTHING
> of
> this happens to me.- I got JRun running the first time in about 30
> minutes.-
> Walter
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
> reference
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darren Ehlers
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 11:37 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Any large scale implementations ?
> >
> >
> > I, so far, have not been overly impressed with JRun 2.3.  I have
> > attributed
> > this somewhat to the fact that the JSP spec isn't 1.0 yet.  I could
> get no
> > assistance in setting it up, took me four days to finally get it
> working.
> > There are some serious bugs in the software right now.  The worst
> one is
> > anytime a JSP page has to regenerate, you will get a
> > ClassCastException for
> > each page that regenerates and have bounce JRun to clear it.  I also
> get
> > random "Unable to obtain indexed properties errors" when using
> > <LOOP>, they
> > seem to have disabled all but the #include server directives
> > (can't use #if,
> > #echo, etc.) and I can't get an answer about execution order of
> directives
> > (i.e. which comes first, <% statements, <LOOP> or <DISPLAY> and when
> does
> > the javascript get executed.  There also appear to be some
> > variable scoping
> > bugs in that within the same statement I can reference some
> variables with
> > <DISPLAY> and some I can't.
> >
> > Also, unless you pony up the $595, it seems you get no support from
> > LiveSoftware.
> >
> > I have been able to hack workarounds for most of these issues and
> > my project
> > is too far along to back out now, so I will be sticking with JRun
> for the
> > short term.  In the long run though, I will look at something like
> > StoryServer from Vignette which I have worked with at other clients
> and is
> > awesome.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Darren
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chandra Chittoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 4:03 PM
> > Subject: Any large scale implementations ?
> >
> >
> > > Hello everyone
> > > We are considering Servlets/JSPs for our web front end to an
> existing
> > > application.
> > > Web server is currently IIS.
> > > We already have a bunch of CORBA objects that they will connect
> to.
> > >
> > > - Is there anyone out there who has implemented this on a large
> scale or
> > > has really tested it out with a really really large number of
> > > transactions ?
> > > - How stable is JRun ?
> > >
> > > - Is there a good architecture recommendation somewhere for this
> > > scenario ?
> > >
> > > It is crucial that I get this information as soon as possible to
> > > know/prove the stability of these relatively new products.
> > >
> > > Please direct me to any relevant information if possible as soon
> as
> > > possible.
> > >
> > > thanks to all
> > > chandra
> > >
> > >
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